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!Forage!!Spring!!Summer!!Autumn!!Winter
 
!Forage!!Spring!!Summer!!Autumn!!Winter
 
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|Blueberries||?||?||?||?
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|Blueberries||?||Y||?||?
 
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|-
 
|Perfect Autumn Leaf||N||N||Y||N
 
|Perfect Autumn Leaf||N||N||Y||N
 
|-
 
|-
|Spindly Taproot||?||?||?||?
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|Spindly Taproot||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Dandelion||?||?||?||?
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|Dandelion||Y||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Mistletoe||?||?||?||?
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|Mistletoe||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Coltsfoot||?||?||?||?
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|Coltsfoot||Y||?||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Stinging Nettle||?||?||?||?
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|Stinging Nettle||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Chives||?||?||?||?
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|Chives||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Chantrelles||?||?||?||?
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|Chantrelles||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Dewy Lady's Mantle||?||?||?||?
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|Dewy Lady's Mantle||Y||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Lady's Mantle||?||?||?||?
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|Lady's Mantle||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Wild Windsown Weed||?||?||?||?
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|Wild Windsown Weed||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Thorny Thistle||?||?||?||?
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|Thorny Thistle||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Heartsease||?||?||?||?
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|Heartsease||Y||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Stalagoom||?||?||?||?
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|Stalagoom||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Gooseneck Barnacle||?||?||?||?
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|Gooseneck Barnacle||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Lingonberries||?||?||?||?
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|Lingonberries||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Peculiar Flotsam||?||?||?||?
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|Peculiar Flotsam||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Bloated Bolete||?||?||?||?
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|Bloated Bolete||Y||Y||?||?
 
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|-
 
|Clover||?||?||?||?
 
|Clover||?||?||?||?
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|Four-Leaf Clover||?||?||?||?
 
|Four-Leaf Clover||?||?||?||?
 
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|Uncommon Snapdragon||?||?||?||?
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|Uncommon Snapdragon||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Morels||?||?||?||?
 
|Morels||?||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Waybroad||?||?||?||?
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|Waybroad||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Parasol Mushroom||?||?||?||?
 
|Parasol Mushroom||?||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Candleberry||?||?||?||?
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|Candleberry||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Lamp Stalk||?||?||?||?
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|Lamp Stalk||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Spirited Mandrake Root||?||?||?||?
 
|Spirited Mandrake Root||?||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Mandrake Root||?||?||?||?
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|Mandrake Root||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Yellowfeet||?||?||?||?
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|Yellowfeet||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Yarrow||?||?||?||?
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|Yarrow||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Washed-up Bladderwrack||?||?||?||?
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|Washed-up Bladderwrack||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Cattail||?||?||?||?
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|Cattail||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Gray Clay||?||?||?||?
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|Gray Clay||?||Y||?||?
 
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|-
|Tangled Bramble||?||?||?||?
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|Tangled Bramble||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Royal Toadstool||?||?||?||?
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|Royal Toadstool||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Frog's Crown||?||?||?||?
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|Frog's Crown||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Rustroot||?||?||?||?
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|Rustroot||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Giant Puffball||?||?||?||?
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|Giant Puffball||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Chiming Bluebell||?||?||?||?
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|Chiming Bluebell||Y||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Cavebulb||?||?||?||?
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|Cavebulb||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Razor Clam||?||?||?||?
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|Razor Clam||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Common Starfish||?||?||?||?
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|Common Starfish||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|River Pearl Mussel||?||?||?||?
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|River Pearl Mussel||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Bay Bolete||?||?||?||?
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|Bay Bolete||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Rainbowpad||?||?||?||?
 
|Rainbowpad||?||?||?||?
 
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|Frogspawn||?||?||?||?
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|Frogspawn||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Blood Stern||?||?||?||?
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|Blood Stern||?||Y||?||?
 
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|-
|Glimmermoss||?||?||?||?
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|Glimmermoss||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Edelweiß||?||?||?||?
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|Edelweiß||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Strawberry||?||?||?||?
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|Strawberry||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Rainbow Shell||?||?||?||?
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|Rainbow Shell||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Kvann||?||?||?||?
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|Kvann||?||Y||?||?
 
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|Camomile||?||?||?||?
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|Camomile||Y||?||?||?
 
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|-
 
|Black Trumpets||?||?||?||?
 
|Black Trumpets||?||?||?||?
 
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|Green Kelp||?||?||?||?
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|Green Kelp||?||Y||?||?
 
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|-
|Dill||?||?||?||?
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|Dill||?||Y||?||?
 
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|Sage||?||?||?||?
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|Sage||?||Y||?||?
 
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|Thyme||?||?||?||?
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|Thyme||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Cave Coral||?||?||?||?
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|Cave Coral||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
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|Oyster||?||?||?||?
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|Oyster||?||Y||?||?
 
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|-
|Cave Clay||?||?||?||?
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|Cave Clay||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Field Blewits||?||?||?||?
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|Field Blewits||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Cave Lantern||?||?||?||?
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|Cave Lantern||?||Y||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Wintergreen||?||?||?||?
 
|Wintergreen||?||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Marsh-Mallow||?||?||?||?
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|Marsh-Mallow||Y||?||?||?
 
|-
 
|-
|Indigo Cap||?||?||?||?
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|Indigo Cap||Y||Y||?||?
 
|}
 
|}
 
Where should this data be stored, in a forage properties? How should it be formatted? --(''[[User_talk:Not a cat|Not a cat]] 12 November 2019'')
 
Where should this data be stored, in a forage properties? How should it be formatted? --(''[[User_talk:Not a cat|Not a cat]] 12 November 2019'')

Latest revision as of 19:12, 4 December 2019

Deduced Minimal Visibility Value

Short version
Based on the below equation: (if I did not mess up the Math of course)
One should be able to approximate the minimal visibility value for a given forageable type.
(This only works for a character which Per*Exp value lies somewhere inside the [Vmin..Vmax] range for the given forageable type.

Where:

Vmin: minimum visibility value (deduced/approximated)
Vratio: (Vhits / Vtot)
- Vhits: number of hits where the item was visible.
- Vtot: number of total tries.

How:

One would move forward and backwards to a given forageable item (plenty of times), so that the item of interest moves inside and outside the characters sight.
While turfing if the item shows up[1], or not[0]. Vhits would be the number of times the item showed up, and Vtot would be the total tries.
- If one would get only ones's, or zero's, the characters Per*Exp value is (probably) outside the target range. (only session with mixed one's and zero's are of any use)
Because this Vmin probing depends on data from lots of tries ... its only recommended to try this in an automated way. (highly boring too I imagine if done manual)

Uncertainty:

I imagine there is a fair share of uncertainty involved here ... but putting that part into numbers falls a bit outside my abilities.


So ... Just in case:

The Table

Forageable Per Exp Vratio (Vmin) (Signature/Source)
(example) 12 34 5/66 --.MvGulik. 14:32, 18 October 2018 (EDT)


The table cannot exceed further on page, need to click "further results" how to fix that?

--Kitsuneg (talk) 13:16, 28 January 2019 (EST)

Nwm - found solution.

--Kitsuneg (talk) 04:46, 29 January 2019 (EST)

Good to see you found the solution. (overlooked your message, as I kinda run out of steam after Silk Thread‎‎ (-_-)zZz) --.MvGulik. 14:12, 29 January 2019 (EST)

Seasons

Spawn seasons (in a case we want to publish such info at wiki):

Y = forage spawns during certain season, N = it doesn't, ? = confirmation required

Forage Spring Summer Autumn Winter
Blueberries ? Y ? ?
Perfect Autumn Leaf N N Y N
Spindly Taproot ? Y ? ?
Dandelion Y Y ? ?
Mistletoe ? Y ? ?
Coltsfoot Y ? ? ?
Stinging Nettle ? Y ? ?
Chives ? Y ? ?
Chantrelles ? Y ? ?
Dewy Lady's Mantle Y ? ? ?
Lady's Mantle ? Y ? ?
Wild Windsown Weed ? Y ? ?
Thorny Thistle ? Y ? ?
Heartsease Y Y ? ?
Stalagoom ? Y ? ?
Gooseneck Barnacle ? Y ? ?
Lingonberries ? Y ? ?
Peculiar Flotsam ? Y ? ?
Bloated Bolete Y Y ? ?
Clover ? ? ? ?
Four-Leaf Clover ? ? ? ?
Uncommon Snapdragon ? Y ? ?
Morels ? ? ? ?
Waybroad ? Y ? ?
Parasol Mushroom ? ? ? ?
Candleberry ? Y ? ?
Lamp Stalk ? Y ? ?
Spirited Mandrake Root ? ? ? ?
Mandrake Root ? Y ? ?
Yellowfeet ? Y ? ?
Yarrow ? Y ? ?
Washed-up Bladderwrack ? Y ? ?
Cattail ? Y ? ?
Gray Clay ? Y ? ?
Tangled Bramble ? Y ? ?
Royal Toadstool ? Y ? ?
Frog's Crown ? Y ? ?
Rustroot ? Y ? ?
Giant Puffball ? Y ? ?
Chiming Bluebell Y ? ? ?
Cavebulb ? Y ? ?
Razor Clam ? Y ? ?
Common Starfish ? Y ? ?
River Pearl Mussel ? Y ? ?
Bay Bolete ? Y ? ?
Rainbowpad ? ? ? ?
Frogspawn ? Y ? ?
Blood Stern ? Y ? ?
Glimmermoss ? Y ? ?
Edelweiß ? Y ? ?
Strawberry ? Y ? ?
Rainbow Shell ? Y ? ?
Kvann ? Y ? ?
Camomile Y ? ? ?
Black Trumpets ? ? ? ?
Green Kelp ? Y ? ?
Dill ? Y ? ?
Sage ? Y ? ?
Thyme ? Y ? ?
Cave Coral ? Y ? ?
Oyster ? Y ? ?
Cave Clay ? Y ? ?
Field Blewits ? Y ? ?
Cave Lantern ? Y ? ?
Wintergreen ? ? ? ?
Marsh-Mallow Y ? ? ?
Indigo Cap Y Y ? ?

Where should this data be stored, in a forage properties? How should it be formatted? --(Not a cat 12 November 2019)

For starters I think a plain table like this is fine.
I'm not sure yet about the property part. Saving to a property only makes sense when that data is/needs to be used on other/multiple pages. I'll have to think about that again.
--.MvGulik. 03:02, 13 November 2019 (EST)