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Legacy talk:Torchpost

2013-08-17T03:42:26Z

CinderHeart: Created page with "Okay it's been 5:59 when I first lighted my first torch on my first torchpost. . . now it's 9:55. I am sleepy care to tell me how long it's been since my durned 'JFK' torch ha..."

Okay it's been 5:59 when I first lighted my first torch on my first torchpost. . . now it's 9:55. I am sleepy care to tell me how long it's been since my durned 'JFK' torch has lasted today? --[[User:CinderHeart|Omniknight]] ([[User talk:CinderHeart|talk]]) 23:42, 16 August 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Wine

2013-08-17T03:17:21Z

CinderHeart:

Interesting. . . I really need someone to confirm this but drinking wine every meal stops the total FEP counter from increasing, thus leaving my total to stay at unfortunately 34.0 until I decide to shirk away from wine. . . *belch* not that i don't need to stop being an alcoholic. .. this is so *burp* cool. --[[User:CinderHeart|Omniknight]] ([[User talk:CinderHeart|talk]]) 23:17, 16 August 2013 (EDT)

Is the hunger you gain correct? i think i went from 25%-27% very hungry from 1 glass q10... that would make hunger 1 right? (and yay i found how to make tag->)[[User:Yolken|Yolken]] 04:53, 16 October 2011 (CDT)
:No, what's refered throughout wiki as 10 hunger is equivalent to 1% on hunger bar meaning one glass is 10 hunger->0.1l is 5 hunger --[[User:Rook|Rook]] 02:33, 10 March 2012 (EST)
What happens if you pour fresh juice in an almost fermented juice? I've read somewhere the result depends on the time passed and the quantity of the juice. [[User:Trepach|Trepach]] 16:08, 8 March 2012 (EST)
:The time left to ferment is averaged weighted by quantity --[[User:Rook|Rook]] 02:33, 10 March 2012 (EST)

Legacy talk:Wine

2013-08-17T03:17:09Z

CinderHeart: Forgive my 'kiddish' style of typing, but it is often how I uhh how do you adults say 'express the kid in me'. *Ahem*

Interesting. . . I really need someone to confirm this but drinking wine every meal stops the total FEP counter from increasing, thus leaving my total to stay at unfortunately 34.0 until I decide to shirk away from wine. . . *belch* not that i don't need to stop being an alcoholic. .. this is so *burp* cool. --[[User:CinderHeart|Omniknight]] ([[User talk:CinderHeart|talk]]) 23:17, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
Is the hunger you gain correct? i think i went from 25%-27% very hungry from 1 glass q10... that would make hunger 1 right? (and yay i found how to make tag->)[[User:Yolken|Yolken]] 04:53, 16 October 2011 (CDT)
:No, what's refered throughout wiki as 10 hunger is equivalent to 1% on hunger bar meaning one glass is 10 hunger->0.1l is 5 hunger --[[User:Rook|Rook]] 02:33, 10 March 2012 (EST)
What happens if you pour fresh juice in an almost fermented juice? I've read somewhere the result depends on the time passed and the quantity of the juice. [[User:Trepach|Trepach]] 16:08, 8 March 2012 (EST)
:The time left to ferment is averaged weighted by quantity --[[User:Rook|Rook]] 02:33, 10 March 2012 (EST)

Legacy talk:Mouflon

2013-08-12T06:25:51Z

CinderHeart: /* Splitting the Herd */

Mouflon may also have 150 HP

== Mouflon Damage/Speed ==

Damage done is based on many calculations, it's better to calculate their UA which I believe was done and documented in W3 somewhere on the forums for most animals. [[User:DatOneGuy|DatOneGuy]] 23:42, 28 April 2011 (CDT)

== Splitting the Herd ==

I noticed while mouflon hunting that if I go far away enough from a good number of mouflon, I'll split the herd and while only 3 are aggroed, those are the original herdlings. I may need more confirmation on this strange behavior.

Also noteworthy is even after repeated assault on the original herd, new herd is not responding. . . I'd like to say bug, but according to Bay12, I'm more inclined now to say 'unintentional feature.' --[[User:CinderHeart|Omniknight]] ([[User talk:CinderHeart|talk]]) 02:25, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Mouflon

2013-08-12T06:25:37Z

CinderHeart: /* Splitting the Herd */

Legacy talk:Mouflon

2013-08-12T06:24:47Z

CinderHeart: Mouflon split, migration stuffs?

Quality

2013-08-07T16:24:37Z

CinderHeart: /* Armor and Clothing */ Not sure what the parenthesized Numbers mean.

Almost all items, as well as many game-world objects, have a quality factor '''Q''', which may range from 1 to ∞, with a standard default quality for most objects of 10 -- for example, all natural-growing trees are Q10. In general, higher Q items are simply better: high Q weapons do more damage, for example.

The in-game effects vary from item to item, with some items like buckets and linen clothing not having any effect at all. Where quality matters, it usually takes the form of the quality multiplier '''QM''':

: <math>QM = \sqrt{\frac{Q}{10}}</math>

This multiplier is 1x for Q10, 2x for Q40, 3x for Q90, 4x for Q160, and so on. It is a nonlinear increase, which just means that it becomes harder and harder to get a good multiplier for higher and higher multipliers. Since Q10 has a QM of 1x, in many places on this wiki you will just see stats given for Q10 objects. You should assume this unless the wiki page you're reading says otherwise.

To make higher-Q objects, you should use higher-Q materials with higher-Q tools. Some materials, like in [[farming]], have a natural quality "spread" of ± 6 points, which you can use to grow higher-Q foods. Others, like soil, fish, water, clay, and herbs, have a Q determined by a natural (but invisible) hot-spot on the map. In other words, you might find that one day you forage a Q31 [[Spindly Taproot]]. This means that this square has Q31 soil. If you dig around in a 5 square radius, you might be able to find higher and higher Q soil -- perhaps even Q40 at some square. You could then mark it off for later, as you can always come back to that hot-spot to collect high-Q herbs, soil, and earthworms. You might then use that soil to plant high-Q trees, which will help you make high-Q tools.

It is very common for crafting qualities to be [[Softcap|softcapped]] by a crafting skill or a vital stat. For example, if you have a Q40 bone and a Q10 branch, you can in principle make a Q35 bone saw -- but if your survival skill is lower, perhaps at 15, you will only make a Q25 bone saw, because (35 + 15)/2 = 25.

It is also very common for fractional qualities to be rounded down to the nearest integer.

=Discussion=

'''There is still much to be understood about the quality system. Use this section to discuss findings, theories, etc.'''

New crafting skills are [[sewing]], [[smithing]], [[Glossary#Carpentry | carpentry]], [[cooking]], [[Glossary#Farming | farming]], and [[survival]].

Quality of crafted goods can be dependent on any (including combinations) of the following: Quality of ingredients, crafter's skill level, and crafter's stats. Which of these three are used seems to vary from item type to item type.

==Armor and Clothing==

Backpacks and cosmetic clothing are unaffected by quality.

Special clothing like the Ranger's set won't be damaged.

Armor gets increased HP and AC as its quality increases. The AC gets multiplied by QM, while the HP gets multiplied by Q/10.

*[[Leather Armor]]: 150 HP, AC 25/25 (2R)
*[[Bear Cape]]: 50 HP, AC 0/15(1L and 8L)
*[[Chainmail Shirt]]: 475 HP, AC 75/75 (2R)
*[[Bronze Plate]]: 500 HP, AC 100/100 (2R)
*[[Plate Armor]]: 500 HP, AC 150/75 (2R)
*[[Leather Boots]]: 100 HP, AC 0/20 (8R)
*[[Leather Pants]]: 150 HP, AC 25/25 (2R)
*[[Ranger's Cape]]: +10 Perc +10 Steal (0R)
*[[Ranger's Shirt]]: +5 Steal +5 Expl(1R)
*[[Ranger's Pants]]: +5 Agi (2L)
*[[Ranger's Boots]]: 150 HP, AC 15/15 (8R)
*[[Druid's Helm]]: 225 HP, AC 30/10 (1L)
*[[Hirdsman's Helmet]]: 200 HP, AC 45/20 (1L) Only usable by [[Hird|Hirdsmen]] within a village.
*[[Boar Tusk Helmet]]: 120 HP, AC 5/30 (1L)
*[[Soldier's Helmet]]: 425 HP, AC 50/25 (1L)

==Weapons==

See the [[Weapons]] page, and Category:Weapons. Weapon damage gets multiplied by QM.

* [[Stone Axe]]: 100 base dmg
* [[Militia Sword]]: 250 base dmg
* [[Bronze Sword]]: 325 base dmg
* [[Soldier's Sword]]: 400 base dmg
* [[Battleaxe of the Twelfth Bay]]: 500 base damage
* [[Sling]]: 60 base dmg
* [[Wooden Bow]]: 110 base dmg
* [[Ranger's Bow]]: 275 base dmg

==Food==

The [[FEPs]] given by a piece of food get multiplied by QM. So, for example, a Q10 beetroot gives 0.5 PER and 0.2 CHA, but a Q90 beetroot will give 1.5 PER and 0.6 CHA.

Quality does not affect the amount of hunger that the food restores -- just the amount that it buffs up your vital stats.

There is use for low quality foods, as they can be eaten for [[FEP#FEP_Requirement_Reduction|FEP Reduction]] as the FEPs given relative to higher quality foods can be negligible at higher levels.

==Miscellaneous==

The quality of structures is not affected by who builds them or what they are repaired with.

Seeds quality is affected by your farming skill and reduced by it if its lower then the crop's Q.

Water recovers more stamina per hunger as its quality increases. Details unknown. 
> Q 10 water goes at a rate of 5% per 5% hunger 
> Q 65 water goes at a rate of 15-16% per 5% hunger

Animals give higher quality items as their level increases, affected by your [[sharp tool]] and survival skill [http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885#p21850].

The quality of crafted items is equal to the average quality of the ingredients rounded down. However, it is also capped by the appropriate skill level of the crafter. Different items have different weights in averaging the quality of a final product.For example, a Q50 bone combined with a Q10 branch would make a Q20 arrow, because a bone weighs 2 and a branch weighs 6. (The formula would be (50*2 + 10*6) / 8) - These are not the true weight values of these items, these are example values. [http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885#p22110]

=== Cooking and Ceramics ===

Cooking and pottery are both very similar. When you bake, you produce a dough based on the average Q of your ingredients, softcapped by the square root of your [[Cooking]]*[[Perception]]. You then place this into an oven, which requires fuel. The quality afterwards is given by a weighted average:

: <math>Q_{item} = \frac{2 Q_{dough} + Q_{oven} + Q_{fuel}}{4}</math>

Pottery uses the same formula as well: the only difference is that you craft a ceramic based on the average Q of your clays used, softcapped by [[dexterity]]. Then the ceramic is the "dough", the kiln is the "oven", and the fuel is still the fuel.

=== Jewelry ===
* Quality for all accessories except [[monocle]]s and [[spectacles]] is equal to the quality of the [[Goldbeater's Skin]], softcapped by <math>\sqrt{Smithing*Psyche}</math>.
* [[Monocle]] and [[glass]] quality is the average of the materials, softcapped by smithing

=== Equipment ===
* [[Bear Tooth Talisman]] quality = tooth quality, softcapped by [[psyche]]
* [[Bone saw]] quality = (5*qBone + qBranch)/6, softcapped by [[survival]]
* [[Traveller's Sack]] quality = (qHardened Leather + qString)/2, softcapped by [[sewing]].

=== Raw materials ===
* [[Board]] quality = sqrt(qLog * qTool), [[softcap]]ped by [[carpentry]]
* Woodblock quality is simply log quality. Your Carpentry and [[stone axe]] don't matter.
* [[Leather]] quality = (3*qHide + qBark + qWater + qTub)/6.

=== Metal Products ===

* Quality for all full metal products are calculated with the formula: quality = (qMetal*4 + qAnvil*1.5 +qHammer*1.5)/7
* [[Smithy's Hammer]] quality = (qMetalQ*3 + qAnvil)/4

=== Food ===
* [[Cheese]] quality will be equal to that of [[curd]] quality, softcapped by [[Cheese Tray|cheese tray]] quality
* [[Butter]] quality = (4*qMilk + qChurn)/5, [[softcap]]ped by [[cooking]]
* [[Butter-steamed Cavebulb]]s are affected by [[butter]], [[water]] and [[cavebulb]] quality (not by fuel though)
* [[Beer]] quality = (qWort + qBarrel )/2
* [[Moon|Fish]] quality = Fishing spot quality, [[softcap]]ped by (qPole*qLine*qHook*qLureOrBait)^(1/4)
* [[Grape juice]] quality = (3*qGrape + qWinepress)/4, only last pressed grape matters
* [[Wine]] quality = (qGrapejuice + qBarrel) / 2
* [[Vinegar]] quality = (qWine + qBarrel) / 2

==Skill values==

'''Sewing limits:''' ''quality affected by dexterity''
* quality of leather items
* quality of cloth products

'''Smithing limits:''' ''quality affected by strength and sometimes psyche''
* quality of metal working recipes (sqrt(STR*Smithing))

* quality of jewelry recipies (sqrt(PSY*Smithing))

'''Carpentry limits:'''
* quality of crafted wooden items e.g. boards (blocks are only affected by tree quality), cheese trays, Primitive Dolls...

'''Cooking limits: '''''quality affected by perception''
* quality of cooking recipes
* quality of unbaked goods - If PER is lower than the average quality of the ingredients, quality = [PER+ 2*(ingredient 1) + ... + 2*(ingredient n)]/( 1+2*n), otherwise it's just said average.

'''Farming limits:'''
* seeds when harvested (MaxQuality = farming +5)
* quality of flour ground at a quern
* quality of trees

'''Survival limits:'''
* arrows, bone saw
* quality of [[foraging|foraged]] items
* skinning and butchering; quality = (Animal Quality + Tool Quality + 2*Survival)/4.
* bone quality only affected by survival.
The effect of survival is capped at 300.

'''Marksmanship limits:'''
* quality of bows

==From loftar==

For buildable objects, the quality is almost always calculated as such:
* The qualities of items in the individual item types are averaged arithmetically.
* The resulting average qualities of the various types are also averaged arithmetically -- often with some weights on items that should be "obviously" more important (like the iron in iron plows) -- to create the quality of the built object.

For craftable items, most are calculated like this:
* As with buildable object, the qualities of the individual item types are averaged, and then weighted together based on importance.
* If one is using any tools, like a churn, anvil, or smithy's hammer, the qualities of those are averaged with the above resultant quality -- often with a weigth of 1/4 for the tool.
* If any character attributes are involved, those attributes themselves are averaged geometrically, and if the resultant "skill quality" is lower than the "input/tool quality", the resultant quality is the arithmetic average of the skill quality and the input/tool quality.

If you don't know what a geometric average is, it is the multiplication product of the individual values, raised to the power of the inverse of the number of values. In other words, averaging values <math>V_1, V_2, \ldots, V_n</math> geometrically means calculating <math>(V_1 \cdot V_2 \cdot \ldots \cdot V_n)^{\frac{1}{n}}</math>.

As for ovens, kilns, smelter and finery forges, the quality of the resultant quality is the arithmetic average of the input item quality and the average of the oven quality and fuel quality, where the fuel quality is the arithmetic average of the fuel items put into the oven. In other words, if the item quality is <math>q_i</math>, the oven's quality is <math>q_o</math> and the fuel's quality is <math>q_f</math>, the quality of the resulting item will be <math>\frac{2q_i + q_o + q_f}{4}</math>.

As for the skills involved in crafting, it should mostly be obvious, but there are, of course, a few things to clarify:
* Sewing related recipes (including leatherworking ones) use the Sewing and Dexterity values.
* Smithing related recipes often combine both Smithing and Strength.

====Crafting formula====

Calculate items used:
:<math>q_{item} = \frac{\sum_{i = 1}^{n} q_iw_i}{\sum w}</math>

If there's a tool involved:
:<math>q_{item} \leftarrow \frac{3q_{item} + q_{tool}}{4}</math>

If there are skill values <math>s_1</math> through <math>s_n</math> involved:
:<math>q_{item} \leftarrow \left \lbrace
\begin{array}{ll}
\frac{q_{skill} + q_{item}}{2}, & \text{if } q_{skill} < q_{item} \\
q_{item}, & \text{otherwise}
\end{array}
\right \rbrace, \text{where }
q_{skill} = {\left( \prod_{i = 1}^{n} s_i\right )}^{\frac{1}{n}}
</math>

*Calculations will be made in order of top to down.
[[Category:Content]]

Quality

2013-08-07T16:09:39Z

CinderHeart: /* Armor and Clothing */

Almost all items, as well as many game-world objects, have a quality factor '''Q''', which may range from 1 to ∞, with a standard default quality for most objects of 10 -- for example, all natural-growing trees are Q10. In general, higher Q items are simply better: high Q weapons do more damage, for example.

The in-game effects vary from item to item, with some items like buckets and linen clothing not having any effect at all. Where quality matters, it usually takes the form of the quality multiplier '''QM''':

: <math>QM = \sqrt{\frac{Q}{10}}</math>

This multiplier is 1x for Q10, 2x for Q40, 3x for Q90, 4x for Q160, and so on. It is a nonlinear increase, which just means that it becomes harder and harder to get a good multiplier for higher and higher multipliers. Since Q10 has a QM of 1x, in many places on this wiki you will just see stats given for Q10 objects. You should assume this unless the wiki page you're reading says otherwise.

To make higher-Q objects, you should use higher-Q materials with higher-Q tools. Some materials, like in [[farming]], have a natural quality "spread" of ± 6 points, which you can use to grow higher-Q foods. Others, like soil, fish, water, clay, and herbs, have a Q determined by a natural (but invisible) hot-spot on the map. In other words, you might find that one day you forage a Q31 [[Spindly Taproot]]. This means that this square has Q31 soil. If you dig around in a 5 square radius, you might be able to find higher and higher Q soil -- perhaps even Q40 at some square. You could then mark it off for later, as you can always come back to that hot-spot to collect high-Q herbs, soil, and earthworms. You might then use that soil to plant high-Q trees, which will help you make high-Q tools.

It is very common for crafting qualities to be [[Softcap|softcapped]] by a crafting skill or a vital stat. For example, if you have a Q40 bone and a Q10 branch, you can in principle make a Q35 bone saw -- but if your survival skill is lower, perhaps at 15, you will only make a Q25 bone saw, because (35 + 15)/2 = 25.

It is also very common for fractional qualities to be rounded down to the nearest integer.

=Discussion=

'''There is still much to be understood about the quality system. Use this section to discuss findings, theories, etc.'''

New crafting skills are [[sewing]], [[smithing]], [[Glossary#Carpentry | carpentry]], [[cooking]], [[Glossary#Farming | farming]], and [[survival]].

Quality of crafted goods can be dependent on any (including combinations) of the following: Quality of ingredients, crafter's skill level, and crafter's stats. Which of these three are used seems to vary from item type to item type.

==Armor and Clothing==

Backpacks and cosmetic clothing are unaffected by quality.

Special clothing like the Ranger's set won't be damaged.

Armor gets increased HP and AC as its quality increases. The AC gets multiplied by QM, while the HP gets multiplied by Q/10.

*[[Leather Armor]]: 150 HP, AC 25/25 (2R)
*[[Bear Cape]]: 50 HP, AC 0/15(1L and 8L)
*[[Chainmail Shirt]]: 475 HP, AC 75/75 (2R)
*[[Bronze Plate]]: 500 HP, AC 100/100 (2R)
*[[Plate Armor]]: 500 HP, AC 150/75 (2R)
*[[Leather Boots]]: 100 HP, AC 0/20 (8R)
*[[Leather Pants]]: 150 HP, AC 25/25 (2R)
*[[Ranger's Shirt]]: 0 HP, AC 15/15 (1R)
*[[Ranger's Pants]]: 0 HP, AC 15/15 (1R)
*[[Ranger's Boots]]: 150 HP, AC 15/15 (8R)
*[[Druid's Helm]]: 225 HP, AC 30/10 (1L)
*[[Hirdsman's Helmet]]: 200 HP, AC 45/20 (1L) Only usable by [[Hird|Hirdsmen]] within a village.
*[[Boar Tusk Helmet]]: 120 HP, AC 5/30 (1L)
*[[Soldier's Helmet]]: 425 HP, AC 50/25 (1L)

==Weapons==

See the [[Weapons]] page, and Category:Weapons. Weapon damage gets multiplied by QM.

* [[Stone Axe]]: 100 base dmg
* [[Militia Sword]]: 250 base dmg
* [[Bronze Sword]]: 325 base dmg
* [[Soldier's Sword]]: 400 base dmg
* [[Battleaxe of the Twelfth Bay]]: 500 base damage
* [[Sling]]: 60 base dmg
* [[Wooden Bow]]: 110 base dmg
* [[Ranger's Bow]]: 275 base dmg

==Food==

The [[FEPs]] given by a piece of food get multiplied by QM. So, for example, a Q10 beetroot gives 0.5 PER and 0.2 CHA, but a Q90 beetroot will give 1.5 PER and 0.6 CHA.

Quality does not affect the amount of hunger that the food restores -- just the amount that it buffs up your vital stats.

There is use for low quality foods, as they can be eaten for [[FEP#FEP_Requirement_Reduction|FEP Reduction]] as the FEPs given relative to higher quality foods can be negligible at higher levels.

==Miscellaneous==

The quality of structures is not affected by who builds them or what they are repaired with.

Seeds quality is affected by your farming skill and reduced by it if its lower then the crop's Q.

Water recovers more stamina per hunger as its quality increases. Details unknown. 
> Q 10 water goes at a rate of 5% per 5% hunger 
> Q 65 water goes at a rate of 15-16% per 5% hunger

Animals give higher quality items as their level increases, affected by your [[sharp tool]] and survival skill [http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885#p21850].

The quality of crafted items is equal to the average quality of the ingredients rounded down. However, it is also capped by the appropriate skill level of the crafter. Different items have different weights in averaging the quality of a final product.For example, a Q50 bone combined with a Q10 branch would make a Q20 arrow, because a bone weighs 2 and a branch weighs 6. (The formula would be (50*2 + 10*6) / 8) - These are not the true weight values of these items, these are example values. [http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885#p22110]

=== Cooking and Ceramics ===

Cooking and pottery are both very similar. When you bake, you produce a dough based on the average Q of your ingredients, softcapped by the square root of your [[Cooking]]*[[Perception]]. You then place this into an oven, which requires fuel. The quality afterwards is given by a weighted average:

: <math>Q_{item} = \frac{2 Q_{dough} + Q_{oven} + Q_{fuel}}{4}</math>

Pottery uses the same formula as well: the only difference is that you craft a ceramic based on the average Q of your clays used, softcapped by [[dexterity]]. Then the ceramic is the "dough", the kiln is the "oven", and the fuel is still the fuel.

=== Jewelry ===
* Quality for all accessories except [[monocle]]s and [[spectacles]] is equal to the quality of the [[Goldbeater's Skin]], softcapped by <math>\sqrt{Smithing*Psyche}</math>.
* [[Monocle]] and [[glass]] quality is the average of the materials, softcapped by smithing

=== Equipment ===
* [[Bear Tooth Talisman]] quality = tooth quality, softcapped by [[psyche]]
* [[Bone saw]] quality = (5*qBone + qBranch)/6, softcapped by [[survival]]
* [[Traveller's Sack]] quality = (qHardened Leather + qString)/2, softcapped by [[sewing]].

=== Raw materials ===
* [[Board]] quality = sqrt(qLog * qTool), [[softcap]]ped by [[carpentry]]
* Woodblock quality is simply log quality. Your Carpentry and [[stone axe]] don't matter.
* [[Leather]] quality = (3*qHide + qBark + qWater + qTub)/6.

=== Metal Products ===

* Quality for all full metal products are calculated with the formula: quality = (qMetal*4 + qAnvil*1.5 +qHammer*1.5)/7
* [[Smithy's Hammer]] quality = (qMetalQ*3 + qAnvil)/4

=== Food ===
* [[Cheese]] quality will be equal to that of [[curd]] quality, softcapped by [[Cheese Tray|cheese tray]] quality
* [[Butter]] quality = (4*qMilk + qChurn)/5, [[softcap]]ped by [[cooking]]
* [[Butter-steamed Cavebulb]]s are affected by [[butter]], [[water]] and [[cavebulb]] quality (not by fuel though)
* [[Beer]] quality = (qWort + qBarrel )/2
* [[Moon|Fish]] quality = Fishing spot quality, [[softcap]]ped by (qPole*qLine*qHook*qLureOrBait)^(1/4)
* [[Grape juice]] quality = (3*qGrape + qWinepress)/4, only last pressed grape matters
* [[Wine]] quality = (qGrapejuice + qBarrel) / 2
* [[Vinegar]] quality = (qWine + qBarrel) / 2

==Skill values==

'''Sewing limits:''' ''quality affected by dexterity''
* quality of leather items
* quality of cloth products

'''Smithing limits:''' ''quality affected by strength and sometimes psyche''
* quality of metal working recipes (sqrt(STR*Smithing))

* quality of jewelry recipies (sqrt(PSY*Smithing))

'''Carpentry limits:'''
* quality of crafted wooden items e.g. boards (blocks are only affected by tree quality), cheese trays, Primitive Dolls...

'''Cooking limits: '''''quality affected by perception''
* quality of cooking recipes
* quality of unbaked goods - If PER is lower than the average quality of the ingredients, quality = [PER+ 2*(ingredient 1) + ... + 2*(ingredient n)]/( 1+2*n), otherwise it's just said average.

'''Farming limits:'''
* seeds when harvested (MaxQuality = farming +5)
* quality of flour ground at a quern
* quality of trees

'''Survival limits:'''
* arrows, bone saw
* quality of [[foraging|foraged]] items
* skinning and butchering; quality = (Animal Quality + Tool Quality + 2*Survival)/4.
* bone quality only affected by survival.
The effect of survival is capped at 300.

'''Marksmanship limits:'''
* quality of bows

==From loftar==

For buildable objects, the quality is almost always calculated as such:
* The qualities of items in the individual item types are averaged arithmetically.
* The resulting average qualities of the various types are also averaged arithmetically -- often with some weights on items that should be "obviously" more important (like the iron in iron plows) -- to create the quality of the built object.

For craftable items, most are calculated like this:
* As with buildable object, the qualities of the individual item types are averaged, and then weighted together based on importance.
* If one is using any tools, like a churn, anvil, or smithy's hammer, the qualities of those are averaged with the above resultant quality -- often with a weigth of 1/4 for the tool.
* If any character attributes are involved, those attributes themselves are averaged geometrically, and if the resultant "skill quality" is lower than the "input/tool quality", the resultant quality is the arithmetic average of the skill quality and the input/tool quality.

If you don't know what a geometric average is, it is the multiplication product of the individual values, raised to the power of the inverse of the number of values. In other words, averaging values <math>V_1, V_2, \ldots, V_n</math> geometrically means calculating <math>(V_1 \cdot V_2 \cdot \ldots \cdot V_n)^{\frac{1}{n}}</math>.

As for ovens, kilns, smelter and finery forges, the quality of the resultant quality is the arithmetic average of the input item quality and the average of the oven quality and fuel quality, where the fuel quality is the arithmetic average of the fuel items put into the oven. In other words, if the item quality is <math>q_i</math>, the oven's quality is <math>q_o</math> and the fuel's quality is <math>q_f</math>, the quality of the resulting item will be <math>\frac{2q_i + q_o + q_f}{4}</math>.

As for the skills involved in crafting, it should mostly be obvious, but there are, of course, a few things to clarify:
* Sewing related recipes (including leatherworking ones) use the Sewing and Dexterity values.
* Smithing related recipes often combine both Smithing and Strength.

====Crafting formula====

Calculate items used:
:<math>q_{item} = \frac{\sum_{i = 1}^{n} q_iw_i}{\sum w}</math>

If there's a tool involved:
:<math>q_{item} \leftarrow \frac{3q_{item} + q_{tool}}{4}</math>

If there are skill values <math>s_1</math> through <math>s_n</math> involved:
:<math>q_{item} \leftarrow \left \lbrace
\begin{array}{ll}
\frac{q_{skill} + q_{item}}{2}, & \text{if } q_{skill} < q_{item} \\
q_{item}, & \text{otherwise}
\end{array}
\right \rbrace, \text{where }
q_{skill} = {\left( \prod_{i = 1}^{n} s_i\right )}^{\frac{1}{n}}
</math>

*Calculations will be made in order of top to down.
[[Category:Content]]

Quality

2013-08-07T16:07:15Z

CinderHeart: /* Armor and Clothing */

Almost all items, as well as many game-world objects, have a quality factor '''Q''', which may range from 1 to ∞, with a standard default quality for most objects of 10 -- for example, all natural-growing trees are Q10. In general, higher Q items are simply better: high Q weapons do more damage, for example.

The in-game effects vary from item to item, with some items like buckets and linen clothing not having any effect at all. Where quality matters, it usually takes the form of the quality multiplier '''QM''':

: <math>QM = \sqrt{\frac{Q}{10}}</math>

This multiplier is 1x for Q10, 2x for Q40, 3x for Q90, 4x for Q160, and so on. It is a nonlinear increase, which just means that it becomes harder and harder to get a good multiplier for higher and higher multipliers. Since Q10 has a QM of 1x, in many places on this wiki you will just see stats given for Q10 objects. You should assume this unless the wiki page you're reading says otherwise.

To make higher-Q objects, you should use higher-Q materials with higher-Q tools. Some materials, like in [[farming]], have a natural quality "spread" of ± 6 points, which you can use to grow higher-Q foods. Others, like soil, fish, water, clay, and herbs, have a Q determined by a natural (but invisible) hot-spot on the map. In other words, you might find that one day you forage a Q31 [[Spindly Taproot]]. This means that this square has Q31 soil. If you dig around in a 5 square radius, you might be able to find higher and higher Q soil -- perhaps even Q40 at some square. You could then mark it off for later, as you can always come back to that hot-spot to collect high-Q herbs, soil, and earthworms. You might then use that soil to plant high-Q trees, which will help you make high-Q tools.

It is very common for crafting qualities to be [[Softcap|softcapped]] by a crafting skill or a vital stat. For example, if you have a Q40 bone and a Q10 branch, you can in principle make a Q35 bone saw -- but if your survival skill is lower, perhaps at 15, you will only make a Q25 bone saw, because (35 + 15)/2 = 25.

It is also very common for fractional qualities to be rounded down to the nearest integer.

=Discussion=

'''There is still much to be understood about the quality system. Use this section to discuss findings, theories, etc.'''

New crafting skills are [[sewing]], [[smithing]], [[Glossary#Carpentry | carpentry]], [[cooking]], [[Glossary#Farming | farming]], and [[survival]].

Quality of crafted goods can be dependent on any (including combinations) of the following: Quality of ingredients, crafter's skill level, and crafter's stats. Which of these three are used seems to vary from item type to item type.

==Armor and Clothing==

Backpacks and cosmetic clothing are unaffected by quality.

Armor gets increased HP and AC as its quality increases. The AC gets multiplied by QM, while the HP gets multiplied by Q/10.

*[[Leather Armor]]: 150 HP, AC 25/25 (2R)
*[[Bear Cape]]: 50 HP, AC 0/15(1L and 8L)
*[[Chainmail Shirt]]: 475 HP, AC 75/75 (2R)
*[[Bronze Plate]]: 500 HP, AC 100/100 (2R)
*[[Plate Armor]]: 500 HP, AC 150/75 (2R)
*[[Leather Boots]]: 100 HP, AC 0/20 (8R)
*[[Leather Pants]]: 150 HP, AC 25/25 (2R)
*[[Ranger's Shirt]]:
*[[Ranger's Pants]]:
*[[Ranger's Boots]]: 150 HP, AC 15/15 (8R)
*[[Druid's Helm]]: 225 HP, AC 30/10 (1L)
*[[Hirdsman's Helmet]]: 200 HP, AC 45/20 (1L) Only usable by [[Hird|Hirdsmen]] within a village.
*[[Boar Tusk Helmet]]: 120 HP, AC 5/30 (1L)
*[[Soldier's Helmet]]: 425 HP, AC 50/25 (1L)

==Weapons==

See the [[Weapons]] page, and Category:Weapons. Weapon damage gets multiplied by QM.

* [[Stone Axe]]: 100 base dmg
* [[Militia Sword]]: 250 base dmg
* [[Bronze Sword]]: 325 base dmg
* [[Soldier's Sword]]: 400 base dmg
* [[Battleaxe of the Twelfth Bay]]: 500 base damage
* [[Sling]]: 60 base dmg
* [[Wooden Bow]]: 110 base dmg
* [[Ranger's Bow]]: 275 base dmg

==Food==

The [[FEPs]] given by a piece of food get multiplied by QM. So, for example, a Q10 beetroot gives 0.5 PER and 0.2 CHA, but a Q90 beetroot will give 1.5 PER and 0.6 CHA.

Quality does not affect the amount of hunger that the food restores -- just the amount that it buffs up your vital stats.

There is use for low quality foods, as they can be eaten for [[FEP#FEP_Requirement_Reduction|FEP Reduction]] as the FEPs given relative to higher quality foods can be negligible at higher levels.

==Miscellaneous==

The quality of structures is not affected by who builds them or what they are repaired with.

Seeds quality is affected by your farming skill and reduced by it if its lower then the crop's Q.

Water recovers more stamina per hunger as its quality increases. Details unknown. 
> Q 10 water goes at a rate of 5% per 5% hunger 
> Q 65 water goes at a rate of 15-16% per 5% hunger

Animals give higher quality items as their level increases, affected by your [[sharp tool]] and survival skill [http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885#p21850].

The quality of crafted items is equal to the average quality of the ingredients rounded down. However, it is also capped by the appropriate skill level of the crafter. Different items have different weights in averaging the quality of a final product.For example, a Q50 bone combined with a Q10 branch would make a Q20 arrow, because a bone weighs 2 and a branch weighs 6. (The formula would be (50*2 + 10*6) / 8) - These are not the true weight values of these items, these are example values. [http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885#p22110]

=== Cooking and Ceramics ===

Cooking and pottery are both very similar. When you bake, you produce a dough based on the average Q of your ingredients, softcapped by the square root of your [[Cooking]]*[[Perception]]. You then place this into an oven, which requires fuel. The quality afterwards is given by a weighted average:

: <math>Q_{item} = \frac{2 Q_{dough} + Q_{oven} + Q_{fuel}}{4}</math>

Pottery uses the same formula as well: the only difference is that you craft a ceramic based on the average Q of your clays used, softcapped by [[dexterity]]. Then the ceramic is the "dough", the kiln is the "oven", and the fuel is still the fuel.

=== Jewelry ===
* Quality for all accessories except [[monocle]]s and [[spectacles]] is equal to the quality of the [[Goldbeater's Skin]], softcapped by <math>\sqrt{Smithing*Psyche}</math>.
* [[Monocle]] and [[glass]] quality is the average of the materials, softcapped by smithing

=== Equipment ===
* [[Bear Tooth Talisman]] quality = tooth quality, softcapped by [[psyche]]
* [[Bone saw]] quality = (5*qBone + qBranch)/6, softcapped by [[survival]]
* [[Traveller's Sack]] quality = (qHardened Leather + qString)/2, softcapped by [[sewing]].

=== Raw materials ===
* [[Board]] quality = sqrt(qLog * qTool), [[softcap]]ped by [[carpentry]]
* Woodblock quality is simply log quality. Your Carpentry and [[stone axe]] don't matter.
* [[Leather]] quality = (3*qHide + qBark + qWater + qTub)/6.

=== Metal Products ===

* Quality for all full metal products are calculated with the formula: quality = (qMetal*4 + qAnvil*1.5 +qHammer*1.5)/7
* [[Smithy's Hammer]] quality = (qMetalQ*3 + qAnvil)/4

=== Food ===
* [[Cheese]] quality will be equal to that of [[curd]] quality, softcapped by [[Cheese Tray|cheese tray]] quality
* [[Butter]] quality = (4*qMilk + qChurn)/5, [[softcap]]ped by [[cooking]]
* [[Butter-steamed Cavebulb]]s are affected by [[butter]], [[water]] and [[cavebulb]] quality (not by fuel though)
* [[Beer]] quality = (qWort + qBarrel )/2
* [[Moon|Fish]] quality = Fishing spot quality, [[softcap]]ped by (qPole*qLine*qHook*qLureOrBait)^(1/4)
* [[Grape juice]] quality = (3*qGrape + qWinepress)/4, only last pressed grape matters
* [[Wine]] quality = (qGrapejuice + qBarrel) / 2
* [[Vinegar]] quality = (qWine + qBarrel) / 2

==Skill values==

'''Sewing limits:''' ''quality affected by dexterity''
* quality of leather items
* quality of cloth products

'''Smithing limits:''' ''quality affected by strength and sometimes psyche''
* quality of metal working recipes (sqrt(STR*Smithing))

* quality of jewelry recipies (sqrt(PSY*Smithing))

'''Carpentry limits:'''
* quality of crafted wooden items e.g. boards (blocks are only affected by tree quality), cheese trays, Primitive Dolls...

'''Cooking limits: '''''quality affected by perception''
* quality of cooking recipes
* quality of unbaked goods - If PER is lower than the average quality of the ingredients, quality = [PER+ 2*(ingredient 1) + ... + 2*(ingredient n)]/( 1+2*n), otherwise it's just said average.

'''Farming limits:'''
* seeds when harvested (MaxQuality = farming +5)
* quality of flour ground at a quern
* quality of trees

'''Survival limits:'''
* arrows, bone saw
* quality of [[foraging|foraged]] items
* skinning and butchering; quality = (Animal Quality + Tool Quality + 2*Survival)/4.
* bone quality only affected by survival.
The effect of survival is capped at 300.

'''Marksmanship limits:'''
* quality of bows

==From loftar==

For buildable objects, the quality is almost always calculated as such:
* The qualities of items in the individual item types are averaged arithmetically.
* The resulting average qualities of the various types are also averaged arithmetically -- often with some weights on items that should be "obviously" more important (like the iron in iron plows) -- to create the quality of the built object.

For craftable items, most are calculated like this:
* As with buildable object, the qualities of the individual item types are averaged, and then weighted together based on importance.
* If one is using any tools, like a churn, anvil, or smithy's hammer, the qualities of those are averaged with the above resultant quality -- often with a weigth of 1/4 for the tool.
* If any character attributes are involved, those attributes themselves are averaged geometrically, and if the resultant "skill quality" is lower than the "input/tool quality", the resultant quality is the arithmetic average of the skill quality and the input/tool quality.

If you don't know what a geometric average is, it is the multiplication product of the individual values, raised to the power of the inverse of the number of values. In other words, averaging values <math>V_1, V_2, \ldots, V_n</math> geometrically means calculating <math>(V_1 \cdot V_2 \cdot \ldots \cdot V_n)^{\frac{1}{n}}</math>.

As for ovens, kilns, smelter and finery forges, the quality of the resultant quality is the arithmetic average of the input item quality and the average of the oven quality and fuel quality, where the fuel quality is the arithmetic average of the fuel items put into the oven. In other words, if the item quality is <math>q_i</math>, the oven's quality is <math>q_o</math> and the fuel's quality is <math>q_f</math>, the quality of the resulting item will be <math>\frac{2q_i + q_o + q_f}{4}</math>.

As for the skills involved in crafting, it should mostly be obvious, but there are, of course, a few things to clarify:
* Sewing related recipes (including leatherworking ones) use the Sewing and Dexterity values.
* Smithing related recipes often combine both Smithing and Strength.

====Crafting formula====

Calculate items used:
:<math>q_{item} = \frac{\sum_{i = 1}^{n} q_iw_i}{\sum w}</math>

If there's a tool involved:
:<math>q_{item} \leftarrow \frac{3q_{item} + q_{tool}}{4}</math>

If there are skill values <math>s_1</math> through <math>s_n</math> involved:
:<math>q_{item} \leftarrow \left \lbrace
\begin{array}{ll}
\frac{q_{skill} + q_{item}}{2}, & \text{if } q_{skill} < q_{item} \\
q_{item}, & \text{otherwise}
\end{array}
\right \rbrace, \text{where }
q_{skill} = {\left( \prod_{i = 1}^{n} s_i\right )}^{\frac{1}{n}}
</math>

*Calculations will be made in order of top to down.
[[Category:Content]]

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-07T15:57:35Z

CinderHeart: /* Best Time & Place For... */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Leeches/Intestines || All
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Brill, Perch

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Leeches===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-07T15:57:13Z

CinderHeart: /* Best Time & Place For... */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Brill, Perch

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Leeches===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Heal

2013-08-07T15:51:27Z

CinderHeart: /* Four finger counts for a point healed for night stalkers */

==Starting a Healing Precedent==
Okay writing from the top of my head. I will report my data on night/day healing. I will have my foraging alt be a night owl, and my farming alt be a day walker. The night stalker I shall record how much healing he gets per min or sec, as well with the day walker. If all goes accordingly, maybe I can edit in something here that won't look as trashy. I'll appreciate any help or critique or even one's
thoughts on me endeavors. --Omniknight 11:46, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

===I'll start with leeches===
These will damage me enough, and then I will record the healing power after the blood sucking. Hel maybe even the healing against leech damage.

====Six finger counts for a point healed for night stalkers====

Legacy talk:Heal

2013-08-07T15:49:30Z

CinderHeart: /* Starting a Healing Precedent */

==Starting a Healing Precedent==
Okay writing from the top of my head. I will report my data on night/day healing. I will have my foraging alt be a night owl, and my farming alt be a day walker. The night stalker I shall record how much healing he gets per min or sec, as well with the day walker. If all goes accordingly, maybe I can edit in something here that won't look as trashy. I'll appreciate any help or critique or even one's
thoughts on me endeavors. --Omniknight 11:46, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

===I'll start with leeches===
These will damage me enough, and then I will record the healing power after the blood sucking. Hel maybe even the healing against leech damage.

====Four finger counts for a point healed for night stalkers====

Legacy talk:Heal

2013-08-07T15:48:47Z

CinderHeart: /* Starting a Healing Precedent */

Legacy talk:Heal

2013-08-07T15:46:51Z

CinderHeart: Created page with "==Starting a Healing Precedent== Okay writing from the top of my head. I will report my data on night/day healing. I will have my foraging alt be a night owl, and my farming a..."

Legacy:Mudflat

2013-08-07T15:01:42Z

CinderHeart:

{{Infobox terrain
| image = Image:Mudflat.png
| plow = No
| pave = Yes
| animals = None
| forage-able = [[Feldspar]]
| plants = [[Tangled Bramble]], [[Thorny Thistle]]
| trees = very rare [[Hazelnut Tree]]s
}}

A mudflat is a barren brown area, only inhabited by the occasional stray animal. While mudflats cannot be plowed, you can pave or plant grass on them. It is also possible to build directly on them, though inadvisable because of [[decay]].
Some people refer to Mudflats as Deserts.

[[Curiosity|Curiosities]] endemic to mudflats are the [[Tangled Bramble]] and the [[Thorny Thistle]]. [[Acre Clay]] can only be obtained from digging on mudflats. [[Feldspar]] occurs non-exclusively on mudflats. Hazel nut trees rarely grow in mudflats.

In spite of similar appearances, using the "Stomp to Dirt" landscaping command does not produce mudflat terrain and can therefore not be used to create artificial acre clay nodes.

Legacy talk:Boar

2013-08-07T14:58:46Z

CinderHeart: /* Pumba sure can Bite! */

==Agility==

Out of 20 sling-shots, my lowest damage was 13.

Sling: q26
Perception: 26

*MAX = 60 * sqrt(26/10) = 96
*MIN = 0.5 * (26/X) * MAX = 13

(26/100) = 0.28

*MIN = 0.5 * (0.28) * MAX = 13

Boar Agility = Aprox 100

--[[User:Projeear|Projeear]] 06:50, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

==Pumba sure can Bite!==
While fighting boars as the "boar-born selfproclaimed", I noticed they possess the ability to use the wilderness attack "Bite", similar to a Fox's Bite. I haven't recorded the damage, but I am confident now Boars can bite yer arse off if ya let them! Take care! --Omniknight 10:58, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Boar

2013-08-07T14:58:33Z

CinderHeart: /* Pumba sure can Bite! */

==Agility==

Out of 20 sling-shots, my lowest damage was 13.

Sling: q26
Perception: 26

*MAX = 60 * sqrt(26/10) = 96
*MIN = 0.5 * (26/X) * MAX = 13

(26/100) = 0.28

*MIN = 0.5 * (0.28) * MAX = 13

Boar Agility = Aprox 100

--[[User:Projeear|Projeear]] 06:50, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

===Pumba sure can Bite!===
While fighting boars as the "boar-born selfproclaimed", I noticed they possess the ability to use the wilderness attack "Bite", similar to a Fox's Bite. I haven't recorded the damage, but I am confident now Boars can bite yer arse off if ya let them! Take care!

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-07T14:15:51Z

CinderHeart: /* Woodfish */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Brill, Perch

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Leeches===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-07T14:14:36Z

CinderHeart: /* First Quarter */ 6/6 Perch, Leeches

Legacy talk:Cast Iron Trivet

2013-08-07T12:47:48Z

CinderHeart:

Upon discovering the bar of cast iron, I couldn't have been able to forge a cast iron trivet. . . what other skills can I think of that lets me make this neat table top decoration? --Omniknight 08:47, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Cast Iron Trivet

2013-08-07T12:44:24Z

CinderHeart: Created page with "Upon discovering the bar of cast iron, I couldn't have been able to forge a cast iron trivet. . . what other skills can I think of that lets me make this neat table top decora..."

Upon discovering the bar of cast iron, I couldn't have been able to forge a cast iron trivet. . . what other skills can I think of that lets me make this neat table top decoration?

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-06T00:24:36Z

CinderHeart: /* Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Brill, Perch

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-05T23:47:54Z

CinderHeart: /* Intestines */ 5/5 Perch. Intestines are confirmed for good perch bait!

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Brill, Perch

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies==
Uhhh I will delete this later the extensive data reporting I am doing seems to not coincide with my initial 'fish types vary by dif. river' theory. . . so yeah. I will delete this later. --Omniknight 21:06, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-04T01:16:25Z

CinderHeart: /* Leech */ 3 Perch 4 Brills, Leech, River Depth

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Brill, Perch

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies==
Uhhh I will delete this later the extensive data reporting I am doing seems to not coincide with my initial 'fish types vary by dif. river' theory. . . so yeah. I will delete this later. --Omniknight 21:06, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-04T01:10:13Z

CinderHeart: /* Leech */ 1 Perch 5 Brill, River Shallows

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies==
Uhhh I will delete this later the extensive data reporting I am doing seems to not coincide with my initial 'fish types vary by dif. river' theory. . . so yeah. I will delete this later. --Omniknight 21:06, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-04T01:06:57Z

CinderHeart: /* Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies==
Uhhh I will delete this later the extensive data reporting I am doing seems to not coincide with my initial 'fish types vary by dif. river' theory. . . so yeah. I will delete this later. --Omniknight 21:06, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-04T00:34:20Z

CinderHeart: /* Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies==
I am going to find this out by fishing in one node of the river and fishing in another node, maybe even a different river system . . . I am curious. Call it naive, but I intend to find this out for myself at the least. If my search turns up no precedents, I'll slash this section away --Omniknight 20:33, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-04T00:33:58Z

CinderHeart: /* Discussions */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Contemplating: Possible that fish in each zone varies==
I am going to find this out by fishing in one node of the river and fishing in another node, maybe even a different river system . . . I am curious. Call it naive, but I may find this out for myself. If my search turns up no precedents, I'll slash this section away --Omniknight 20:33, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-04T00:31:54Z

CinderHeart: /* New Moon */ 3 Brill with Intestines

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

===Moth===
River Depths
*Brill

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Mine Support

2013-08-03T20:50:31Z

CinderHeart:

So 6 diagonal tiles and 9 horizontal/vertical tiles are safe? Im thinking of posting that just to be captain obvious, but never hurts to have more data to read than to strain one's eyes I say. The new influx of newbies are encouraging me to edit. --Omniknight 16:50, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Mine Support

2013-08-03T20:48:20Z

CinderHeart: Created page with "So 6 diagonal tiles and 9 horizontal/vertical tiles are safe? Im thinking of posting that just to be captain obvious, but never hurts to have more data to read than to strain ..."

User:CinderHeart

2013-08-03T20:29:39Z

CinderHeart:

CinderHeart, This is not a forum. Please don't mes up again. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 04:38, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart, Why are you continuing trying to add a signature to the Edit-Summary field. After one try you should have noted that that is not working. It looks kinda immature to put it mildly. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 16:11, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

Sigh ... Guess I'm not getting trough to you. Giving you 3 days off to contemplate it. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 16:11, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

I am sorry, I just don't know how to user time stamp the way you do to make your real name shine through. . . I canonly make do with signatures for now. . . I want to be known famous not for my charisma but for my intelligence and what field reports I can get back from with every fishing trip I do. . . you could say I like to take the initiative and set milestones and grab the precedent before anyone else does. . . Fishing is one of my passions truly on any character! --Omniknight_and_Guardian_of_All_Things_Chiibi_and_Mayan 07:34, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

:<pre>~~~</pre> prints User page(talk page): [[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]])
:<pre>~~~~</pre> prints User page(talk page) and timestamp: [[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 08:09, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
:<pre>~~~~~</pre> prints only timestamp: 08:09, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
:we usualy abbreviate it with --, just to look neater. If you want a custom signature you would have to make it as <pre>--[[User:CinderHeart|display text here]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] ~~~~~</pre>
:[[User:CinderHeart|display text here]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 08:09, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
:but what Mv was refering to are:
:*your signatures are too long, normal username is less than 10 characters, what you use as signature is 54 characters
:*you should not put a signature in summary field, ever
:Besides that, what you were banned for (i assume) is posting rubish alongside your valuable contributions (the stuff that i deleted out of your posts should've never been posted there in the first place) --[[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 08:09, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
:ps. if you want to type ... do them without spacing, otherwise you'll get unexpected display results
::More a case of helping CinderHeart finding his brakes. (Rubbish included) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 20:33, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

:Welcome back CinderHeart.
:"''I was ignorant and immature I admit. Forgive me''" If your future wiki action's support your newly found maturity your going to be fine.
:Personal note from me(Tip): if you don't know something, don't use that as a excuse. Just ask what you need to know/learn to fix/change/etc it.
:And if you like to test something, like for example your signature. Test it on your personal page(s).
:Good luck. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 20:33, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

Please adjust your signature. [http://ringofbrodgar.com/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADewy_Lady%27s_Mantle&diff=29376&oldid=29371 history link] 

I figured it too embelleshing anyways. My bad! --Omniknight 16:28, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
''Disregard what was said here before if read
''

User:CinderHeart

2013-08-03T20:28:36Z

CinderHeart:

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-03T19:07:24Z

CinderHeart: /* Waning Crescent */ 2/2 Perches, Leeches

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy:Dewy Lady's Mantle

2013-08-03T19:02:27Z

CinderHeart: Look at talk.

{{Infobox metaobj
|xsize = 1
|ysize = 1
|skillreq = [[requires::Foraging]]
|objectsreq = None
|producedby = Hand
|perexp = 80
|terrain = [[terrain::Swamp]] (at Dawn)
|lpgain = 600
|studytime = 5.00
|mentalweight = 3
}}

[[Category:Foraged]]
[[Category:Wild Plants]]

The '''Dewy Lady's Mantle''' appears similar to a [[Lady's Mantle]], but with whiter leaves. It can be acquired by harvesting a Lady's Mantle at dawn between the hours of 5:30 and 7:00 ingame.

It has same base LP as a Lady's Mantle, but requires less [[attention]]. Because it's a different item, it can be studied at the same time as a regular Lady's Mantle.

[[File:Ladys_Mantle_Wild.png|thumb|left|caption|Looks identical to a Lady's Mantle in the wild.]]

Legacy talk:Dewy Lady's Mantle

2013-08-03T18:42:52Z

CinderHeart: /* Dewy Times */

==Dewy Times==

What counts as "dusk/dawn" and is dewy mantle different forageable object? --[[User:Barhandar|Barhandar]] 07:19, 28 March 2011 (CDT)
:Dusk/dawn is when on the daytime picture (on the top) the sun is shown partly, i.e. it's not fully above the horizon. And the plant in the wild looks just the same. --[[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 22:15, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

I tried harvesting them at dusk, it didnt seem to be dewy, it might just be dawn, which is when you'd expect dew on your plants anyway. Anyone want to confirm? --[[User:ScegfOd|ScegfOd]] 18:24, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

Also I tested the timing of picking at dawn, apparently the first crack of dawn is too early, but the third picture in the sequence of dawn is late enough that dew forms on the lady's mantle --[[User:ScegfOd|ScegfOd]] 02:03, 21 April 2011 (CDT)

I just collected a normal Lady's Mantle mid-dawn, it definitely seems to be an item that spawns at dawn and despawns sometime after...though perhaps non-dewy Lady's Mantles can convert to dewy ones? this is the first time ive had a non dewy mantle at dawn [[User:ScegfOd|ScegfOd]] 21:56, 27 April 2011 (CDT)
:I've waited on a Lady's Mantle to convert to a Dewy Lady's Mantle, and it did. You were probably there too early or late. --[[User:DatOneGuy|DatOneGuy]] 11:08, 28 April 2011 (CDT)

It seems the ''Dewy Available Times'' information is not entirely correct. I harvested a mantle at 5:33am today and another at 6:03am and did not get a dewy one. --[[user:Hik|Hik]] (28 January 2012)

Tried at 18.05, did not work. Waited until 1830 for the second one, it was still a normal ladies mantle. Information out of date? --[[user:Fishbat|Fishbat]] (17 August 2012)

Note: If there is a random aspect to the "Dewy Lady's Mantle", than not getting one don't mean anything. I don't know if there is a random aspect in play here, but I would not be surprised if there is. --[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 17:31, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

This is weird, 7:10 I pick some lady's mantle, and none of them are dewy. . . Is the wiki correct these days or must I correct them as W7 is a new challenge? --Omniknight_and_Guardian_of_All_Things_Chiibi_and_Mayan 14:42, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-02T21:33:10Z

CinderHeart: /* Waning Crescent */ 2/2 Brill, WF; 1/3 Brill, 2/3 Perch, PP; 3/3 Perch, RLL; 3/3 Perch, Feather Fly

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch
Pikes 4/5, 1/5 Eel. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch
3/3 Perches. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Perch, 2/3 Pike. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

===Pinecone Plug===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart. Please don't use the summary field for your fish session data (''It will just get lost and unusable in time.)''. As possible example to follow, I put your session data in the list as preformed text ''(text indented with a space)''. Please check if I put them in the right location.. ''(General info: Space indented PRE-text allows for signature expansion, <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> will not)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 09:11, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-01T20:04:56Z

CinderHeart: /* Wood Fish */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch
Pikes 4/5, 1/5 Eel. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch
3/3 Perches. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Perch, 2/3 Pike. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart. Please don't use the summary field for your fish session data (''It will just get lost and unusable in time.)''. As possible example to follow, I put your session data in the list as preformed text ''(text indented with a space)''. Please check if I put them in the right location.. ''(General info: Space indented PRE-text allows for signature expansion, <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> will not)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 09:11, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-08-01T18:14:53Z

CinderHeart: /* Last Quarter */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch
Pikes 4/5, 1/5 Eel. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch
3/3 Perches. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Perch, 2/3 Pike. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

===Leeches===
River Depths
*Perch

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart. Please don't use the summary field for your fish session data (''It will just get lost and unusable in time.)''. As possible example to follow, I put your session data in the list as preformed text ''(text indented with a space)''. Please check if I put them in the right location.. ''(General info: Space indented PRE-text allows for signature expansion, <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> will not)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 09:11, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T23:19:07Z

CinderHeart: /* Leeches */ Whoops

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch
Pikes 4/5, 1/5 Eel. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch
3/3 Perches. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Perch, 2/3 Pike. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart. Please don't use the summary field for your fish session data (''It will just get lost and unusable in time.)''. As possible example to follow, I put your session data in the list as preformed text ''(text indented with a space)''. Please check if I put them in the right location.. ''(General info: Space indented PRE-text allows for signature expansion, <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> will not)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 09:11, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T23:18:52Z

CinderHeart: /* Waning Gibbous */ 3/3 Brill Intestines; 3/3 Brill Leeches

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch
Pikes 4/5, 1/5 Eel. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch
3/3 Perches. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Perch, 2/3 Pike. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Dpeths
*Bloated

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart. Please don't use the summary field for your fish session data (''It will just get lost and unusable in time.)''. As possible example to follow, I put your session data in the list as preformed text ''(text indented with a space)''. Please check if I put them in the right location.. ''(General info: Space indented PRE-text allows for signature expansion, <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> will not)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 09:11, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T23:14:06Z

CinderHeart: /* Waning Gibbous */ 1/1 Brill Silk Moth; 5/5 Brill. Intestines; 5/5 Brill, Leeches

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch
Pikes 4/5, 1/5 Eel. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike
===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch
3/3 Perches. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike
1/3 Perch, 2/3 Pike. (CinderHeart, 31 July 2013)

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Leeches===
River Shallows
*Brill

===Silk Moth===
River Shallows
*Brill

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

CinderHeart. Please don't use the summary field for your fish session data (''It will just get lost and unusable in time.)''. As possible example to follow, I put your session data in the list as preformed text ''(text indented with a space)''. Please check if I put them in the right location.. ''(General info: Space indented PRE-text allows for signature expansion, <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> will not)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 09:11, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T06:06:48Z

CinderHeart: /* Waning Gibbous */ Woops.

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

===Wood Fish===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T06:06:27Z

CinderHeart: /* Waning Gibbous */ 3/3 Perches FF; 1/3 Pike, 2/3 Perch RLL; 1/3 Perch 2/3 Pike WF

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==

===Feather Fly===
River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Pike

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T05:41:26Z

CinderHeart: /* Leeches (Regular) */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill, Perch

River Depths
*Pike, Eel, Perch

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==
...

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T04:36:15Z

CinderHeart: /* Woodfish */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Pike, Eel

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==
...

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T03:57:59Z

CinderHeart: /* Woodfish */

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice, Roach

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Pike, Eel

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==
...

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-31T03:26:06Z

CinderHeart: /* Full Moon */ 5 leeches; rarity level: 4 Pikes and 1 Eel.

=New Fishing Discoveries (2013)=
==Best Time & Place For...==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Fish !! Time !! Bait/Lure !! Place
|-
| Perch || Waxing Crescent || Any(?) || All but Lake Shallows
|-
| Brill || Waning Crescent|| Earthworm/ Leech|| River
|-
| Salmon || New Moon|| Intestines || Lake Shallows
|-
| Bream|| New Moon || Leech || Lake Shallows
|-
| Pike|| Any(?)|| Any(?) || Lake Shallows
|-
| Sturgeon|| Full Moon|| Woodfish || River
|-
| Plaice || Full Moon|| Woodfish || River Shallow
|-
| Roach || Waning Crescent || Earthworm || River
|-
| Eel || ? || ? || ?
|}

==New Moon==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Leech===
Lake Shallows
*Perch, Bream, Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
Lake Depths
*Perch

==Waxing Crescent==

===Leech===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Brill
*Roach

River Depths
*Perch
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Earthworm===
River Shallows
*Perch

River Depths
*Perch

Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Intestines===
Lake Shallows
*Pike

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===
River Depths
*Perch

===Feather fly===
River Depths
*Perch

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Shallows
*Perch
*Pike
==First Quarter==

===Intestines===
River Shallows
*Perch, Brill

River Depths
*Perch, Brill

Lake Shallows
*Perch, Pike, Salmon

Lake Depths
*Perch

===Woodfish===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Brill

River Depths
*Brill

Lake Shallows
*Brill

===Feather Fly===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

==Waxing Gibbous==

===Intestines===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Brill

===Bloated Leeches===

River Depths
*Brill

River Shallows
*Roach

Lake Shallows
*Roach

Lake Depths
*Roach, Eel, Pike

===Feather Fly===

Lake Depths
*Brill

===Male Silkmoth===

Lake Shallows
*Roach

===Wood Fish===

River Shallows
*Sturgeon
*Brill

==Full Moon==

===Woodfish===
River Shallows
*Sturgeon, Plaice

River Depths
*Sturgeon, Roach

===Feather Fly===
River Depths
* Brill

===Leeches (Regular)===
River Shallows
*Eel, Pike, Roach, Brill

River Depths
*Pike, Eel

===Bloated Leeches===
River Depths
*Pike

===Rock Lobster Lure===
River Shallows
*Perch, Roach, Pike

==Waning Gibbous==
...

==Last Quarter==
...

===Feather Fly===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Rock Lobster===

River Shallows
*Perch

===Wood Fish===
*Perch, Brill

==Waning Crescent==

===Earthworm===
River Depths
* Perch, Brill, Roach

River Shallows
* Perch, Brill, Roach

Lake Shallows
* Pike

Lake Depths
* Pike, Perch

===Rock Lobster===
River Depths
* Perch

Lake Depths
* Pike

=Discussions=

==Default fish==
Brill is one of the general default fish you will catch most of the time. (not sure what the other one was. Overall q of fishing gear had some effect here to ''"q<10<q"''.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 10:18, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

It must be noted that Perch is easy to come by once you have the proper gear and lures ready. On the Last Quarter today I have caught plenty of fish with three basic lures: Wood Fish, Rock Lobster, and the Feather Fly. --[[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]][[User talk:CinderHeart|(talk)]] 07:30, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

==Chance distribution==
"I noticed that each fish has a varying chance of getting caught" ([[User:CinderHeart|CinderHeart]] 30 July 2013)
:Yep. That's something that crossed my mind to when fishing.

The general idea that makes sense here is that based on the current situation ''(Water type(deep/shallow), Moon phase, Equipment quality)'' is that there is a different chance for the different fish types to be caught. If this is the case, it kinda makes sens to add the count per fish type caught in a given fishing session. This would give a indication what the general chance is per fish type in a given situation.

For starters session data could just be dumped in the fish list (single bullet line, or as <nowiki><pre></nowiki> text). But if anyone knows some alternatives for this, I'm all ears. I'm not going to specify what data I think might be useful, as that probably would scare off most wiki fishermans's.. Based on the current used data set. Moon phase, water type and fish type(s)+count(s) are basically the minimum specs for a session report. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 08:44, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

==River v Lake==
Projeear. Do you have any data that clearly shows there is a difference between River and Lake. I think there might not be a difference between the two. And if that's the case, it would simplify the data set. ''(I don't have, or know, of any data that points to either side.)'' --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 22:46, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

==Passenger seat (old)==
It seems that I wasn't able to fish from the passenger seat of a boat. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, it seems like it'd be a good idea to add that to the fishing and/or rowboat articles. [[User:Logiedan|Logiedan]] 23:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I couldn't either. I suspect you can if you can click in exactly the right place. However, if you're in that situation, just ask your driver to switch seats so you can collect wonderful fishies~ [[User:Breadbocks|Breadbocks]] 8:27 PM 10/17/11

==Suddenly quitting fishing (old)==
Has the origin of suddenly quitting fishing been determined as of yet? I have a suspicion it's bait/lure related, but am not sure. If anyone knows it should definitely be part of this article.[[User:Lunarius Haberdash|Lunarius Haberdash]] 13:58, March 21, 2011 (PST)

:It surely depends both on the lure, the time of the day, and the day of the week (ie. phase of the moon). [[User:Theodor|Theodor]] 02:07, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

:: When your character suddenly quits fishing. There are two possible reasons. 1) Your using a lure and while catching some fish, something in your fishing gear broke. or 2) For both lure and bate. The fish you caught was below q10. The options at this point are: 1) Move closer to the node center, or 2) Wait until the node is regenerated. (nts: should be added to main page.) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|.MvGulik.]] 15:23, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Legacy talk:Fishing

2013-07-30T07:54:26Z

CinderHeart: /* Rock Lobster Lure */