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Legacy talk:Pickaxe

2013-08-29T21:26:53Z

Kortak: /* Quality of Pickaxe */

==Q influences the hardness of rock.==
I could mine with a stone axe Q53. Equipping my pickaxe Q13 and trying the same tile i got the message "that rock is much too hard for you to mine". i have 60STR after bonuses.
After getting "A glass to keep the cold out" and sniffing some boar tusk snuff, at 114 STR with the pickaxe i get the message "that rock is slightly too much hard for you to mine." --[[User:MamaMantis|MamaMantis]] 17:15, 16 December 2011 (EST)
==Quality of Pickaxe==
Is there any source or test data on the new quality weights? --[[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 11:06, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
:OK, so the source is <pre>http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17871&start=10</pre> with following test data:
#Q22 iron (x4) + Q10 Branch +q43 Anvil +q35 Hammer : Q25 Pickaxe
#Q26 iron (x4) + Q10 Branch +q43 Anvil +q35 Hammer : Q27 Pickaxe
#Q33 iron (x4) + Q10 Branch +q43 Anvil +q35 Hammer : Q28 Pickaxe
#Q26 iron (x4) + Q20 Branch +q43 Anvil +q35 Hammer : Q30 Pickaxe
#Q37 iron (x4) + Q10 Branch +q43 Anvil +q35 Hammer : Q30 Pickaxe
#Q41 iron (x4) + Q36 Branch +q43 Anvil +q35 Hammer : Q38 Pickaxe
:Now the pairing of results 1 and 2, and 2 and 3 indicate that the data is wrong or capping is involved. Either way no formula can be reliably deducted from it.
::ok i'm wrong here, formula can possibly exist for this set of data (with on the razor-edge rounding), but it can't be weight of 2/7 for ore, number crunching now --[[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 13:04, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
:::So with the above, iron ore weight is <math>\frac{4}{15}<W(i)<\frac{2}{7}</math> but for that range remaining components' possible ranges are mutually exclusive giving same conclusion, corrupt data or something extra involved (mid-way rounding down seperatly on components and tools doesn't solve this either), giving up for now --[[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 14:13, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
:Qore*2 + Qbranch*2 + (QAnvil+Qhammer)*1.5 /7 <-this was sugested one but no real data to confirm it. --[[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 11:41, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

Old formula is wrong. Working with mine now and fits everytime. Yes i think i was capped somewhere in the old data where i was still leveling my stats..new data i have confirms my formula which im using and everytime its the right calculated quality where the old formula doesnt. There might be some smalkl rounding in the ore part. but pff..dont share it then

Legacy:Pickaxe

2013-08-26T15:05:33Z

Kortak: /* Pickaxe Quality */

{{infobox metaobj
| xsize = 1
| ysize = 2
| skillreq = [[requires::Metal Working]]
| objectsreq = [[requires::Bar of Bronze]] x4 or [[requires::Bar of Cast Iron]] x4 or [[requires::Bar of Steel]] x4 AND [[requires::Branch]]
| producedby = [[requires::Smithy's Hammer]], [[requires::Anvil]]
}}

*Increases [[Mining]] speed - Reduces stamina drain
*Increases [[Stone|Chip Stone]] Speed - Reduces stamina drain
*Allows boulders to be removed from a [[Cellar]] so it can be used
*Increases the speed things are destroyed - Deals 2 additional damage to buildings.
*Equips in both 5L and 5R (both hand slots).
*Your mining efficiency is the square root of pickaxeQ times strength.
Example: q40 pickaxe and 100 strength is much better than q10 pickaxe and 300+ strength
==How to Acquire==
You need to equip a [[Smithy's Hammer]] and you need an [[Anvil]] to make a pickaxe.

{{Key|C}}raft > M{{Key|e}}tal Working > {{Key|P}}ickaxe

==Pickaxe Quality==

Qore*2 + Qbranch*2 + (QAnvil+Qhammer)*1.5 /7

q Pickaxe is [[softcap]]ped by sqrt([[Strength]] * [[Smithing]])

[[Category:Equipment]]
[[Category:Mining Tools]]

Legacy:Pickaxe

2013-08-26T15:04:39Z

Kortak: /* Pickaxe Quality */

Legacy:Pickaxe

2013-08-26T14:58:23Z

Kortak: /* Pickaxe Quality */

{{infobox metaobj
| xsize = 1
| ysize = 2
| skillreq = [[requires::Metal Working]]
| objectsreq = [[requires::Bar of Bronze]] x4 or [[requires::Bar of Cast Iron]] x4 or [[requires::Bar of Steel]] x4 AND [[requires::Branch]]
| producedby = [[requires::Smithy's Hammer]], [[requires::Anvil]]
}}

*Increases [[Mining]] speed - Reduces stamina drain
*Increases [[Stone|Chip Stone]] Speed - Reduces stamina drain
*Allows boulders to be removed from a [[Cellar]] so it can be used
*Increases the speed things are destroyed - Deals 2 additional damage to buildings.
*Equips in both 5L and 5R (both hand slots).
*Your mining efficiency is the square root of pickaxeQ times strength.
Example: q40 pickaxe and 100 strength is much better than q10 pickaxe and 300+ strength
==How to Acquire==
You need to equip a [[Smithy's Hammer]] and you need an [[Anvil]] to make a pickaxe.

{{Key|C}}raft > M{{Key|e}}tal Working > {{Key|P}}ickaxe

==Pickaxe Quality==
(((Qmetal + Qbranch)/2) *4) + (1.5*(Qhammer+Qanvil) /7 = Qpickaxe

q Pickaxe is [[softcap]]ped by sqrt([[Strength]] * [[Smithing]])

[[Category:Equipment]]
[[Category:Mining Tools]]

Legacy:Herbalist Table

2013-08-26T11:15:33Z

Kortak: /* How to use */

{{infobox metaobj
|xsize = 1
|ysize = 2
|skillreq = [[requires::Plant Lore]]
|objectsreq = [[requires::Block of Wood]] x4, [[requires::Board]] x4, [[requires::Plant Fibres]] x8
|repwith = [[requires::Board]] x4
|lift = Yes
}}

Used with a [[Treeplanter's Pot]] and any one of [[Apple Core]], [[Fir Cone]], [[Mulberry]], nut, pine cone or any catkin to create a new [[Tree]] of that type. Also used to dry [[Wild Windsown Weed]]s to random seeds, to hatch [[silkworm|Silkworms]], to germinate wheat seeds for [[beermaking|Beermaking]], to cure [[Fresh Hemp Bud|Hemp Buds]], to dry [[tobacco|Tobacco]] leaves, to dry [[raisins|Raisins]] from [[grapes|Grapes]], to dry and ferment [[tea|Tea]] leaves, and to dry [[Boiled Pepper Drupes]].

==How to Acquire==
{{Key|B}}uild > H{{Key|e}}rbalist Table

Building a herbalist's table requires plant fibres, which may be difficult to find for new players.

1. Ask somebody nicely for plant fibres.

2. If nobody's willing to donate or trade, and you can't acquire them by less legal means, then harvest your own fibres from [[hemp]] or [[flax]]. To get those, dry [[Wild Windsown Weed|wild windsown weeds]] (WWW) on a [[Drying Frame|drying frame]], and with a random chance you get a flax or hemp seed. Plant seeds into ploughed land, wait, harvest, gather the fibres, repeat. While drying WWWs on the herbalist's table is much faster than on a frame (Real time: 2.6h instead of 16h), you can start farming without a table and build one after you get hemp or flax.

==How to use==
Place any of the precursors of items mentioned above to the herbalist table and wait. [[Tree]]'s take about 2.5 hours to sprout from [[Treeplanter's Pot|treeplanter's pots]]; [[Silkworm Egg]]s takes about 8 hours to hatch; [[Fresh Tea Leaves]] take 40 minutes to dry into [[Green Tea Leaves|green tea leaves]]; those ferment into [[Black Tea Leaves]] in about 8-12hours if left on the table. As currently (18. April 2010) both kinds of tea leaves do the same, there is no danger in fermenting green ones (however the quality of black tea leaves will be closer to the quality of the table than the green tea ones, so be careful if your Herbalist Table quality is less than quality of your Fresh Teal Leaves. However making black tea is beneficial if your Herbalist table q > Fresh Tea Leaves q)

You can also dry [[Wild Windsown Weed|WWWs]] on the table, but this is only useful if your table is >q10, as the default drying frame will be q10 and produce q10 seeds from default q10 WWWs. If you are looking for wheat, drying WWWs on the table is NOT recommended. If a WWW dries into a [[Wheat Seed|wheat seed]] and is left on the table, it will germinate and be lost for farming. Refer to [[Beermaking|beermaking information]] on intentional germination. Wheat seeds, once germinated, will not change anymore, so the table is safe for beermaking purposes.

== Quality ==
The quality of the herbalist table affects everything produced by it.

The quality of anything produced on a table is the average of the precursor item and the table quality. This means you can test the quality of a table by checking the quality of items produced.

The quality of a Herbalist Table is <math> 2*averageFibreq + averageBoardq + averageBlockq \over 4</math>

== Time ==
The lengths of time it takes to get the various items from their precursor items on a herbalist table are as follows:

{| border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"
| '''Process'''
| style="text-align: center;"| '''Length of game time'''
| style="text-align: center;"| '''Real time'''
|-
| [[Black Tea Leaves]] || 1 to 1.5 day || 8 to 12 hours
|-
| [[Cured Hemp Bud]] || 6 days || 2 days
|-
| [[Cured Tobacco Leaf]] || 6 days || 2 days
|-
| [[Dried Pepper Drupes]] || 4.5 to 6 days || 36 to 48 hours
|-
| [[Germinated Wheat Seed]] || ~2 days || ~16 hours
|-
| [[Green Tea Leaves]] || 2 hours || 40 minutes
|-
| [[Raisins]] || 2 days || 16 hours
|-
| [[Silkworm]] || 1 day || 8 hours
|-
| [[Treeplanter's Pot|Sprouted Sapling  ]] || 4 hours || 1 hour 20 minutes
|-
| [[Wild Windsown Weed]] || 8 hours || 2.7 hours
|}

''Note: Please add exact times to this table if you know them! (and specify game time or real time, or both)''

'''Note''': [[Treeplanter's Pot|Sprouted Sapling]] is assuming full nature.

Legacy:Herbalist Table

2013-08-26T11:09:44Z

Kortak: /* Time */

{{infobox metaobj
|xsize = 1
|ysize = 2
|skillreq = [[requires::Plant Lore]]
|objectsreq = [[requires::Block of Wood]] x4, [[requires::Board]] x4, [[requires::Plant Fibres]] x8
|repwith = [[requires::Board]] x4
|lift = Yes
}}

Used with a [[Treeplanter's Pot]] and any one of [[Apple Core]], [[Fir Cone]], [[Mulberry]], nut, pine cone or any catkin to create a new [[Tree]] of that type. Also used to dry [[Wild Windsown Weed]]s to random seeds, to hatch [[silkworm|Silkworms]], to germinate wheat seeds for [[beermaking|Beermaking]], to cure [[Fresh Hemp Bud|Hemp Buds]], to dry [[tobacco|Tobacco]] leaves, to dry [[raisins|Raisins]] from [[grapes|Grapes]], to dry and ferment [[tea|Tea]] leaves, and to dry [[Boiled Pepper Drupes]].

==How to Acquire==
{{Key|B}}uild > H{{Key|e}}rbalist Table

Building a herbalist's table requires plant fibres, which may be difficult to find for new players.

1. Ask somebody nicely for plant fibres.

2. If nobody's willing to donate or trade, and you can't acquire them by less legal means, then harvest your own fibres from [[hemp]] or [[flax]]. To get those, dry [[Wild Windsown Weed|wild windsown weeds]] (WWW) on a [[Drying Frame|drying frame]], and with a random chance you get a flax or hemp seed. Plant seeds into ploughed land, wait, harvest, gather the fibres, repeat. While drying WWWs on the herbalist's table is much faster than on a frame (Real time: 2.6h instead of 16h), you can start farming without a table and build one after you get hemp or flax.

==How to use==
Place any of the precursors of items mentioned above to the herbalist table and wait. [[Tree]]'s take about 2.5 hours to sprout from [[Treeplanter's Pot|treeplanter's pots]]; [[Silkworm Egg]]s takes about 8 hours to hatch; [[Fresh Tea Leaves]] take 30 minutes to dry into [[Green Tea Leaves|green tea leaves]]; those ferment into [[Black Tea Leaves]] in about 8-12hours if left on the table. As currently (18. April 2010) both kinds of tea leaves do the same, there is no danger in fermenting green ones (however the quality of black tea leaves will be closer to the quality of the table than the green tea ones, so be careful if your Herbalist Table quality is less than quality of your Fresh Teal Leaves. However making black tea is beneficial if your Herbalist table q > Fresh Tea Leaves q)

You can also dry [[Wild Windsown Weed|WWWs]] on the table, but this is only useful if your table is >q10, as the default drying frame will be q10 and produce q10 seeds from default q10 WWWs. If you are looking for wheat, drying WWWs on the table is NOT recommended. If a WWW dries into a [[Wheat Seed|wheat seed]] and is left on the table, it will germinate and be lost for farming. Refer to [[Beermaking|beermaking information]] on intentional germination. Wheat seeds, once germinated, will not change anymore, so the table is safe for beermaking purposes.

== Quality ==
The quality of the herbalist table affects everything produced by it.

The quality of anything produced on a table is the average of the precursor item and the table quality. This means you can test the quality of a table by checking the quality of items produced.

The quality of a Herbalist Table is <math> 2*averageFibreq + averageBoardq + averageBlockq \over 4</math>

== Time ==
The lengths of time it takes to get the various items from their precursor items on a herbalist table are as follows:

{| border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"
| '''Process'''
| style="text-align: center;"| '''Length of game time'''
| style="text-align: center;"| '''Real time'''
|-
| [[Black Tea Leaves]] || 1 to 1.5 day || 8 to 12 hours
|-
| [[Cured Hemp Bud]] || 6 days || 2 days
|-
| [[Cured Tobacco Leaf]] || 6 days || 2 days
|-
| [[Dried Pepper Drupes]] || 4.5 to 6 days || 36 to 48 hours
|-
| [[Germinated Wheat Seed]] || ~2 days || ~16 hours
|-
| [[Green Tea Leaves]] || 2 hours || 40 minutes
|-
| [[Raisins]] || 2 days || 16 hours
|-
| [[Silkworm]] || 1 day || 8 hours
|-
| [[Treeplanter's Pot|Sprouted Sapling  ]] || 4 hours || 1 hour 20 minutes
|-
| [[Wild Windsown Weed]] || 8 hours || 2.7 hours
|}

''Note: Please add exact times to this table if you know them! (and specify game time or real time, or both)''

'''Note''': [[Treeplanter's Pot|Sprouted Sapling]] is assuming full nature.

Legacy:Herbalist Table

2013-08-26T02:24:51Z

Kortak: /* Time */

{{infobox metaobj
|xsize = 1
|ysize = 2
|skillreq = [[requires::Plant Lore]]
|objectsreq = [[requires::Block of Wood]] x4, [[requires::Board]] x4, [[requires::Plant Fibres]] x8
|repwith = [[requires::Board]] x4
|lift = Yes
}}

Used with a [[Treeplanter's Pot]] and any one of [[Apple Core]], [[Fir Cone]], [[Mulberry]], nut, pine cone or any catkin to create a new [[Tree]] of that type. Also used to dry [[Wild Windsown Weed]]s to random seeds, to hatch [[silkworm|Silkworms]], to germinate wheat seeds for [[beermaking|Beermaking]], to cure [[Fresh Hemp Bud|Hemp Buds]], to dry [[tobacco|Tobacco]] leaves, to dry [[raisins|Raisins]] from [[grapes|Grapes]], to dry and ferment [[tea|Tea]] leaves, and to dry [[Boiled Pepper Drupes]].

==How to Acquire==
{{Key|B}}uild > H{{Key|e}}rbalist Table

Building a herbalist's table requires plant fibres, which may be difficult to find for new players.

1. Ask somebody nicely for plant fibres.

2. If nobody's willing to donate or trade, and you can't acquire them by less legal means, then harvest your own fibres from [[hemp]] or [[flax]]. To get those, dry [[Wild Windsown Weed|wild windsown weeds]] (WWW) on a [[Drying Frame|drying frame]], and with a random chance you get a flax or hemp seed. Plant seeds into ploughed land, wait, harvest, gather the fibres, repeat. While drying WWWs on the herbalist's table is much faster than on a frame (Real time: 2.6h instead of 16h), you can start farming without a table and build one after you get hemp or flax.

==How to use==
Place any of the precursors of items mentioned above to the herbalist table and wait. [[Tree]]'s take about 2.5 hours to sprout from [[Treeplanter's Pot|treeplanter's pots]]; [[Silkworm Egg]]s takes about 8 hours to hatch; [[Fresh Tea Leaves]] take 30 minutes to dry into [[Green Tea Leaves|green tea leaves]]; those ferment into [[Black Tea Leaves]] in about 8-12hours if left on the table. As currently (18. April 2010) both kinds of tea leaves do the same, there is no danger in fermenting green ones (however the quality of black tea leaves will be closer to the quality of the table than the green tea ones, so be careful if your Herbalist Table quality is less than quality of your Fresh Teal Leaves. However making black tea is beneficial if your Herbalist table q > Fresh Tea Leaves q)

You can also dry [[Wild Windsown Weed|WWWs]] on the table, but this is only useful if your table is >q10, as the default drying frame will be q10 and produce q10 seeds from default q10 WWWs. If you are looking for wheat, drying WWWs on the table is NOT recommended. If a WWW dries into a [[Wheat Seed|wheat seed]] and is left on the table, it will germinate and be lost for farming. Refer to [[Beermaking|beermaking information]] on intentional germination. Wheat seeds, once germinated, will not change anymore, so the table is safe for beermaking purposes.

== Quality ==
The quality of the herbalist table affects everything produced by it.

The quality of anything produced on a table is the average of the precursor item and the table quality. This means you can test the quality of a table by checking the quality of items produced.

The quality of a Herbalist Table is <math> 2*averageFibreq + averageBoardq + averageBlockq \over 4</math>

== Time ==
The lengths of time it takes to get the various items from their precursor items on a herbalist table are as follows:

{| border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"
| '''Process'''
| style="text-align: center;"| '''Length of game time'''
| style="text-align: center;"| '''Real time'''
|-
| [[Black Tea Leaves]] || 24 to 36 hours || 8 to 12 hours
|-
| [[Cured Hemp Bud]] || 6 days || 2 days
|-
| [[Cured Tobacco Leaf]] || 6 days || 2 days
|-
| [[Dried Pepper Drupes]] || 4.5 to 6 days || 36 to 48 hours
|-
| [[Germinated Wheat Seed]] || ~48 hours or 2 days || ~16 hours
|-
| [[Green Tea Leaves]] || 1 hour and 54 minutes || 38 minutes
|-
| [[Raisins]] || 2 days || 16 hours
|-
| [[Silkworm]] || 24 hours || 8 hours
|-
| [[Treeplanter's Pot|Sprouted Sapling  ]] || 6 hours and 40 minutes || 1 hour 20 minutes
|-
| [[Wild Windsown Weed]] || 8 hours || 2.7 hours
|}

''Note: Please add exact times to this table if you know them! (and specify game time or real time, or both)''

'''Note''': [[Treeplanter's Pot|Sprouted Sapling]] is assuming full nature.