Category talk:Edible Mushroom

Category seems redundant

This category seems redundant to me, as data wise its (manual-set) data is a duplication of the Edible(Hunger/Energy) and Mushroom(s) item data.
(Same for manual-set Mushrooms category btw,)
Alternative list case dropped at Tables/Forageables tmp1 page.
- Giant Puffball: Mushroom ambiguity/incompleteness.
- Morels: Mushroom incompleteness.
- (secondary issue seems the manual-set "Foraged Foods", ... pondering about that one.)
--.MvGulik. 19:08, 14 July 2019 (EDT)

Agreed - this categories are legacy. Any mushroom and foragebles is enough. Not sure other categories are worth.

Not understand what you call incompleteness in morels and puffball? they are complete for me(just verify for per exp)

Kitsuneg (talk) 07:48, 15 July 2019 (EDT)

Incompleteness: The difference in being marked as "(specific)Any Mushroom" vs "(category)Mushrooms". But ... now that I think about it again. "Any Mushroom" is for mushroom items that can be interchanged (and not for marking a item as being a mushroom - Ouch! ;-/). So that changes things a bit. ... Revaluating other stuff (Edible Mushrooms category will be canned). --.MvGulik. 12:25, 15 July 2019 (EDT)

The Edible Mushroom category was originally created to distinguish from the Mushroom Category. On the wiki, the Specific::Any Mushroom actually correlates to Edible Mushroom in-game (I briefly looked, And I didn't find any recipes that used an Any Mushroom type). So while there is a redundant category here, it's actually the Any Mushroom Category

to elaborate on this - Parboiled Morels can be used in "Edible Mushroom" recipes (such as autumn steak), but Morels cannot. Thus, Parboiled Morels are both mushrooms and edible mushrooms, while morels are not. Furthermore, some inedible mushrooms can be used in "Edible Mushroom" recipes. Fairy Mushrooms and Cave Lanterns are both inedible mushrooms which can be used as an "Edible Mushroom" food type, they however do not have any hunger/FEP data associated with them.

--Ricky (talk) 19:38, 15 July 2019 (EDT)

1) All Specific-type categories are technically redundant, as they are (automated) shadow-categories of Specific-type types.

2) "Any Mushroom" seems to be used in multiple recipes. We must be using different definitions for what is considered a recipe (for/on RoB).

... Mmm, think I need to also look at the Edible and Food marking ... later.

--.MvGulik. 02:57, 16 July 2019 (EDT)

"Any Mushroom" type does not exist in-game. in-game, what RoB calls the "Any Mushroom" type is actually called the "Edible Mushroom" type.

--Ricky (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2019 (EDT)

Ricky>""Any Mushroom" type does not exist in-game." On it own that is kinda irrelevant.

Ricky>"what RoB calls the "Any Mushroom" type is actually called the "Edible Mushroom" type. (+screenshot)" Now there is finally something useful. "Edible Mushroom" is an actually in-game used classification. But based on your previous comment, its seems a recipe(crafting) specific classification.

I still don't think that changes much. Other than that both RoB marking are kinda badly named for there usage in RoB. Will give it some more thoughts though.

--.MvGulik. 02:48, 17 July 2019 (EDT)

Mushrooms: Data dump

Data	Count
Category:Mushrooms	23
Category:Edible Mushrooms	18
Category:Any Mushroom	25
Specific::Any Mushroom	25
Merged (or)	28
Merged (and)	18

Item	PerExp (Foraged)	Foraged	Hunger (Edible)	Energy (Edible)	Foods	Any Mushroom	specific	Mushrooms‎	Edible Mushrooms	Foraged Foods	Requires	Requires (inverse)
Bay Bolete	960	✗	0.75	150	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	‎	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Black Truffles						✗	Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Black Trumpets	3,500	✗	1	125	✗	✗	Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Bloated Bolete	110	✗	1	275	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Block of Trombone Chantrelle			1	300	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Lumberjacking Stone Axe Metal Axe Trumpet Chantrelle	Lumberjacking Stone Axe Metal Axe Trumpet Chantrelle
Button Mushroom	400	✗	0.25	75	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom Champignon	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Cave Lantern	8,000	✗				✗	Any Mushroom	✗	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Chantrelles	52	✗	0.5	75	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Cremini Mushroom	400	✗	0.5	75	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom Champignon	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Dried Morels			1	200	✗	✗	Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Herbalist Table Plant Lore Morels	Herbalist Table Plant Lore Morels
Fairy Mushroom						✗	Any Mushroom	✗	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Field Blewits	5,000	✗	1	200	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Giant Puffball	500	✗	1	200	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Indigo Cap	34,420	✗	1	200	✗	✗	Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Liberty Caps	1,500	✗	0.5	300	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	‎	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Morels	150	✗				‎		✗	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Oyster Mushroom			0.5	75	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Parasol Mushroom	150	✗	0.35	100	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Parboiled Morels			0.5	125	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎		Cauldron Morels	Cauldron Morels
Poppycaps						‎		✗	‎		Poppycaps	Poppycaps
Portobello Mushroom	400	✗	0.75	75	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom Champignon	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Royal Toadstool	324	✗				‎		✗	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Ruby Bolete	2,500	✗	1.5	150	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Snowtop	1,500	✗	1.5	150	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging
Stalagoom	100	✗	0.5	200	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎		Foraging Dust Pile	Foraging Dust Pile
Troll Mushrooms			1	400	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎		Hunting Troll	Hunting Troll
White Truffles						✗	Any Mushroom	‎	‎		Foraging	Foraging
Yellowfeet	200	✗	0.5	125	✗	✗	Edible Mushroom Any Mushroom	✗	‎	✗	Foraging	Foraging

Required-By ("Any Mushroom"): (none)

Case notes:

• Truffles (Black, White): Foraged(action) vs Foraging(skill). Found/Acquired by leased Pig. Ergo: no perexp. (a sort of fishing with a dynamic object)
• Parboiled Morels: Special (currently unsupported) case. Uses percentage instead of absolute points. !?! I must have mixed up something.
• "Any Mushroom" vs "Edible"(Hunger,Energy): Are independent, or not-related, markings.
  • With "Any Mushroom" being: (member of, or the) Group of interchangeable items. (the general usage point(s) is group depend) In this case some other food creation actions (see (dynamic) Required-By list).