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Does a wall built directly on grassland decay faster than a wall constructed on paved tiles on grassland? [[User:Ferinex|Ferinex]] 01:04, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
==Palibashing Strenght==
at 490(484 even) you do 22 damage, plus 4 from the Sledgehammer means you're at 26. Pali has soak of 25 so you do 1 damage per hit, and need to hit 2500 times...unless its already damaged


=Indestructable?=
*next point is at 529 so 1250 hits with SH
It isn't indestructable w/o a battering ram, isn't that statement a little bit misleading? They can be destroyed with lots of effort.
*then 576(1 damage with a pickaxe) so 625 hits with SH
*then 625(1 damage with a stone axe) so 313 hits with SH


[[User:Yeturn|Yeturn]] 17:09, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
(ImAwesome http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30283#p390511)--[[User:Borka|Borka]] 09:46, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
 
== Gates ==
 
Do you need to build a brand new cornerstone 2 tiles away to create a gate or is there a way to continue as a "subsequent cornerpost?, seems irritating you need to get all those huge quantity of mats again just to get a gate done.




== Gates nitpick ==
Just nitpicking, but "''You can actually make two gates with one initial corner-post.''" is kinda giving the wrong idea. As there is no limit to the amount of gates you can built while using only one initial corner-post. (and technically ... you can get 3 gate on that initial corner-post itself. If you would like to.) (A animated gif might be useful here ... thinking about it.)  --[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 12:09, 26 July 2011 (CDT)
:Trying to explain it using words is silly. If planned right, one can build many inner gates with just the one initial corner-post but one can't have outer gates to the same section without building a battering ram or a second corner post. Such a palisade should be planned like a web. Another thing to note is that a simple palisade might make you look simple and worthless but could make you more safe. Here is a picture since I like drawing. Red points are important places to build corner-posts and the red circle indicates the single initial corner-post. Red and blue show possible sections and green shows the impossible (I think). Dark gray lines are sections to build after the palisade drawn with white is built. --[[User:Deadguy60|Deadguy60]] 04:10, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
::[[File:Legacy-Palisade example.png|300px]]


== Other ==
I have the skill yeomanry enabled but the roundpole fence is the only option for a fence. I play in world 6. How do build a palisade?[[User:Trepach|Trepach]] 06:22, 26 February 2012 (EST)
:1) Apart from the Required skills. To be able to build something you also need to have discovered all the required objects. For a palisade that would be 'Block of Wood', 'Leather', 'Bone Glue', 'Rope'.
:2) You seems to have a HnH forum account, but why you ask such a basic question at the wiki beats me. (Although that general aspect of the game might need some additional wiki work ... but that's a different subject.)
:--[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 08:07, 26 February 2012 (EST)
::Thank you for the quick answer! That helped. I dont like sniffing in forums but in the wiki.[[User:Trepach|Trepach]] 09:30, 26 February 2012 (EST)




'''Deadguy60 edit'''<br>
Edit: http://ringofbrodgar.com/w/index.php?title=Palisade&curid=2050&diff=26128&oldid=26123&rcid=15698<br>
Not sure what to make of this. Definitively needs to be rewritten.<br>
@Deadguy60: Try putting some more effort in being clear. Or use the talk page is you like others to check your text.
--[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 20:31, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
:I once believed that you could not shoot through a palisade but maybe I was thinking about how it would be like in Dwarf Fortress. The function of a wall is merely to put more distance between you and a potential attacker and nothing more. And the thing about being close to the wall was just something said in the How do I? forum. I often ask the forums about these things I'm not sure about until I get an intelligent answer as trolling is rampant in the forums. --[[User:Deadguy60|Deadguy60]] 20:49, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
I see. You should always be careful with comparing items from different games. A palisade in HnH is just to prevent any player (or hostile animal) from easily walking onto you personal area. And (thereby, or also) it prevents direct contact actions. But, yea, it will not block range attracts (including character summoning, or character memorizing for that matter.) --[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 05:23, 22 April 2012 (EDT)


::"I often ask the forums about these things I'm not sure about until I get an intelligent answer as trolling is rampant in the forums." For the most part you can trust posts on the forums from either me, MvGulik, TeckX, Onionfighter, PatchouliKnowledge, TonkyHonk, Phaen and MagicMan. There are others whom I've forgot to mention but there is a large range of people you can trust. If you do perhaps see any trolling, don't reply to it just report it. --[[User:ApocalypsePlease|ApocalypsePlease]] 10:54, 22 April 2012 (EDT)


It should say "nearly indistructible by hand", and stuff not built on pavement will decay twice as fast so yes, you should pave under it even when building it on grassland.
== Undo revision 26146 by MvGulik ==


[[User:Exewu|Exewu]] 16:54, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
Deadguy60. If your undoing a precious undo. I strongly suggest you at least add a reason.<br>
 
So What is your reason in this case?<br>
 
Or, rewrite your text to make it less ambiguous. --[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 04:37, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
 
Just nitpicking, but "''You can actually make two gates with one initial corner-post.''" is kinda giving the wrong idea. As there is no limit to the amount of gates you can built while using only one initial corner-post. (and technically ... you can get 3 gate on that initial corner-post itself. If you would like to.) (A animated gif might be useful here ... thinking about it.--[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 12:09, 26 July 2011 (CDT)


== 2 tiles in front / behind gate ==
:Oh, it was confirmed[//www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27270#p345766] in the forums after and I forgot to add a reason. --[[User:Deadguy60|Deadguy60]] 11:39, 7 May 2012 (EDT)


I have built many gates, and I never had to pave tiles in front / behind planned gate.  
::Aha, looks kinda like a unintentional feature to me. But ok, feature is feature.
Maybe it applies to some specific terrain types? Grassland / forest / mine floor didn't have to be paved. Changing "gates require extra 2 tiles" to "Gates may require extra 2 tiles (verification required) in some cases"
::How about animals? As your using "creature" and not "character"(as in player characters only) in your text.
::+ nevermind the animals part. Loftar's comment on this takes care of that part. "''loftar > Well, combat simply ignores obstacles.''" (A rewrite still seems in order ... later maybe.) --[[User:MvGulik|MvGulik]] 16:18, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 10:35, 4 November 2022

Palibashing Strenght

at 490(484 even) you do 22 damage, plus 4 from the Sledgehammer means you're at 26. Pali has soak of 25 so you do 1 damage per hit, and need to hit 2500 times...unless its already damaged

  • next point is at 529 so 1250 hits with SH
  • then 576(1 damage with a pickaxe) so 625 hits with SH
  • then 625(1 damage with a stone axe) so 313 hits with SH

(ImAwesome http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30283#p390511)--Borka 09:46, 11 April 2013 (EDT)


Gates nitpick

Just nitpicking, but "You can actually make two gates with one initial corner-post." is kinda giving the wrong idea. As there is no limit to the amount of gates you can built while using only one initial corner-post. (and technically ... you can get 3 gate on that initial corner-post itself. If you would like to.) (A animated gif might be useful here ... thinking about it.) --MvGulik 12:09, 26 July 2011 (CDT)

Trying to explain it using words is silly. If planned right, one can build many inner gates with just the one initial corner-post but one can't have outer gates to the same section without building a battering ram or a second corner post. Such a palisade should be planned like a web. Another thing to note is that a simple palisade might make you look simple and worthless but could make you more safe. Here is a picture since I like drawing. Red points are important places to build corner-posts and the red circle indicates the single initial corner-post. Red and blue show possible sections and green shows the impossible (I think). Dark gray lines are sections to build after the palisade drawn with white is built. --Deadguy60 04:10, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
Legacy-Palisade example.png

Other

I have the skill yeomanry enabled but the roundpole fence is the only option for a fence. I play in world 6. How do build a palisade?Trepach 06:22, 26 February 2012 (EST)

1) Apart from the Required skills. To be able to build something you also need to have discovered all the required objects. For a palisade that would be 'Block of Wood', 'Leather', 'Bone Glue', 'Rope'.
2) You seems to have a HnH forum account, but why you ask such a basic question at the wiki beats me. (Although that general aspect of the game might need some additional wiki work ... but that's a different subject.)
--MvGulik 08:07, 26 February 2012 (EST)
Thank you for the quick answer! That helped. I dont like sniffing in forums but in the wiki.Trepach 09:30, 26 February 2012 (EST)


Deadguy60 edit
Edit: http://ringofbrodgar.com/w/index.php?title=Palisade&curid=2050&diff=26128&oldid=26123&rcid=15698
Not sure what to make of this. Definitively needs to be rewritten.
@Deadguy60: Try putting some more effort in being clear. Or use the talk page is you like others to check your text. --MvGulik 20:31, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I once believed that you could not shoot through a palisade but maybe I was thinking about how it would be like in Dwarf Fortress. The function of a wall is merely to put more distance between you and a potential attacker and nothing more. And the thing about being close to the wall was just something said in the How do I? forum. I often ask the forums about these things I'm not sure about until I get an intelligent answer as trolling is rampant in the forums. --Deadguy60 20:49, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I see. You should always be careful with comparing items from different games. A palisade in HnH is just to prevent any player (or hostile animal) from easily walking onto you personal area. And (thereby, or also) it prevents direct contact actions. But, yea, it will not block range attracts (including character summoning, or character memorizing for that matter.) --MvGulik 05:23, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

"I often ask the forums about these things I'm not sure about until I get an intelligent answer as trolling is rampant in the forums." For the most part you can trust posts on the forums from either me, MvGulik, TeckX, Onionfighter, PatchouliKnowledge, TonkyHonk, Phaen and MagicMan. There are others whom I've forgot to mention but there is a large range of people you can trust. If you do perhaps see any trolling, don't reply to it just report it. --ApocalypsePlease 10:54, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

Undo revision 26146 by MvGulik

Deadguy60. If your undoing a precious undo. I strongly suggest you at least add a reason.
So What is your reason in this case?
Or, rewrite your text to make it less ambiguous. --MvGulik 04:37, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

Oh, it was confirmed[1] in the forums after and I forgot to add a reason. --Deadguy60 11:39, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
Aha, looks kinda like a unintentional feature to me. But ok, feature is feature.
How about animals? As your using "creature" and not "character"(as in player characters only) in your text.
+ nevermind the animals part. Loftar's comment on this takes care of that part. "loftar > Well, combat simply ignores obstacles." (A rewrite still seems in order ... later maybe.) --MvGulik 16:18, 7 May 2012 (EDT)