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''Use this page to request and/or discuss stuff related to the '''[[{{int:mainpage}}|main RoB homepage]]'''.''<br>
*''Use this page to discuss stuff related to the '''[[{{int:mainpage}}|main RoB homepage]]'''.''
''Thread for RoB Wiki discussion at forums http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=42391''<br>
*''For general wiki discussion, please visit the '''[[Project_talk:Community_Portal|Community Portal Talk]]''' page.''
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*''Alternatively there is also a general RoB Wiki thread at '''[//www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=42391 HnH forum]'''.''
 
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= '''Subjects''' =


==Requests==
== '''Subject 1''' ==
 
I feel like a slight freshen up of the homepage might be good, mostly stuff aimed at new players as this is the best source of information there is.
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Maybe stuff like "Escaping Starting Area" could be "Starting a New Character", maybe locate it towards the top of the page. Pages about combat could be upfront on top and maybe unified in a way to teach new players to stay away from  things. [[User:Soukuw|Soukuw]] ([[User talk:Soukuw|talk]]) 04:46, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Add [[Credos]] in H&H Encyclopedia part.<br>
Maybe remove Curiosities from Objects? they are better listed in Encyclopedia<br>
--[[User:Kitsuneg|Kitsuneg]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneg|talk]]) 07:04, 20 January 2019 (EST)
 
:Added Credos.
:Curiosities(page) already listed/linked in Encyclopedia section.
:Curiosities link in Objects section is linking to Curiosities category.
:Not sure if those category links are needed/useful for subjects that also have an alternative information page on the related subject. Leaving that to you and Ricky to decide (''optional, of course'').
:--[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 09:36, 20 January 2019 (EST)
 
::moved the encyclopedia curiosity link over to the objects list and removed the previous link to the curiosity category. It never actually occurred to me that we had two curiosity links on the main page.
::gotta have that symmetry
::--[[User:Ricky|Ricky]] ([[User talk:Ricky|talk]]) 11:30, 20 January 2019 (EST)
 
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Add natural well page to wiki, see if anyone has tried dig deeper on it also --[[User:Sheepie|Sheepie]] ([[User talk:Sheepie|talk]]) 13:47, 13 March 2020 (EDT)
:[[Wellspring‎‎ ]] (''if that's the one you where thinking of'') was added by [[User:Kitsuneg|Kitsuneg]] --[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 08:01, 14 March 2020 (EDT)
 
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Add new tool for cooking(not_a_cat cookbook currently abandoned)
https://food.havenandhearth.link/
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=67285
:--[[User:Kitsuneg|Kitsuneg]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneg|talk]]) 14:48, 16 March 2020 (EDT)
 
 
= Old stuff ==
:(<i>going to be evaluated, and moved or removed<i>) --[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 06:50, 17 March 2020 (EDT)
 
== British v American ==
In case of general "''British v American''" language follow ups. (preferably here)<br/>
- [[Legacy_talk:Water#infobox, water, liter. (done)|infobox, water, liter.]]
 
==Special Information and Featured Articles==
 
Looks to me like it would be better to split links away from Special Information into it's own table and move all remaining featured articles there instead. On a side note this talk page could probably be cleaned up of the solved or otherwise irrelevant chat. --[[User:Rook|Rook]] ([[User talk:Rook|talk]]) 21:41, 17 September 2013 (EDT)
 
:Cleaned up some old talk stuff. ... Feel free to mod the main page (or a copy/example of it). --[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 00:13, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:After seeing the "Beginner Guide to Village Roles" on the HnH forum (www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33768). Having a separate section/page for a collection of good guide posts might be a idea to. With some (the better one's) on the main page (too). --[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 01:42, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
What about moving some stuff from Special Information into the area where the url to ru RoBWiki is? I.e. links to other language forums. As you've already seen i'm not that firm with working on the Wiki so i didn't try myself --[[User:Borka|Borka]] ([[User talk:Borka|talk]]) 13:32, 15 November 2013 (EST)
:: If you mean the "in other languages" box. That part is really meant to be used for RoB-wiki copies in other language. So that's a no-go. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 15:05, 15 November 2013 (EST)
 
== Additional information links ==
 
Just dumping this here for the moment.
* www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3057 - How quality works - By Bigfish, Oct 2009.
* www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33768 - Beginner Guide to Village Roles - by Ranma,  Sep 2013
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== Image use ==
 
Wondering about using some images on the main page. As in general background filling. I think the main header part would be ok to have some background image. Not to sure about having a image behind the main table. Note: not sure yet if what I have in mind is easily done or even possible. --[[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 11:43, 17 November 2013 (EST)


== Legacy/updated pages ==
:"''Escaping Starting Area''" seem not 'that' wrong as link title to me, as truly new users might potentially get lost in it due to not knowing what to do (''but only ones I expect''). I think the general location of things/links don't matter 'that' much here. As long as things are grouped and labeled properly. [[User_talk:MvGulik|<i><font color="#666" size="2px">.MvGulik.</font></i>]] 09:40, 24 July 2021 (UTC)


I think it's been long enough and everything I've ran across has been moved to a "Legacy:<page>" and the page updated to information relative to the current world. Might be worth it to update the "legacy" banner to read more appropriately such as
== '''Subject 2''' ==
Hello everyone, I have just registered and am trying to understand how it works so maybe I can help out in the future.
I wanted to suggest, if possible, to put the server time, season and day, on the front page, it might be useful for many.


"The RoB Wiki currently hosts information for both the current Haven & Hearth world as well as the legacy server. Please be aware that information relating to legacy should be found on pages with "legacy" in the name. While our editors have done their best to get things sorted, please be aware there may be some pages that haven't been moved properly and may still be flagged that the information is legacy and may not apply to the current world."
Bye, thanks, see you soon.


I'm not the best writer when it comes to passing on this kind of information, but I think I am getting the general idea across.
== "server time, season and day, on the front page" ==


== Remove the GLoSQ link? ==
I'm pretty sure that we used to have indicator for that, but then Winter was changed to five days, down from five. This broke the system Wiki used.


The forum post for the Grand List of Simple Questions has essentially been deleted, with venatorvenator replacing his posts with 'Oh boy was this outdated'. Is there still enough information in this thread, and is it worth the effort of having people try to skim through it to find that information, to merit it being linked on the wiki's front page anymore? If not we should probably remove it. --[[User:Frission|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission|talk]]) 14:43, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
While this is presumably something that would have been fixable, I can understand that motivation for that could be limited. They could not know if devs decide to make further adjustments to season lengths, requiring indicator to be fixed again.


It's not so much that the GLoSQ should be read or skimmed, but it should be known that it is used to post simple questions instead of making one line threads in the HDI section of the forum. I'll PM granger and request him to create a meaningful OP for that thread.
Not long ago I might have said that the current seasons system with five days of winter is here to stay, but considering the "anti-winter radiance" of various base objects, devs could think that main problem with winter has been solved and it's okay to make winter ten days again.


--[[User:Ricky|Ricky]] ([[User talk:Ricky|talk]]) 01:17, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
== Other than that ==


The thread is also meant to be searched, not skimmed. Since it's a sticky (and one of four in "How Do I?") on the forums, I really don't see a point in having it linked here. The others have been consolidated into a "guides" list so it's helpful to have them linked here as a second way to keep from being overlooked.--[[User:MagicManICT|MagicManICT]] ([[User talk:MagicManICT|talk]]) 13:14, 23 August 2017 (EDT)
It also needed to be recalculated and updated after 'every' server timeout. And as creator & sole maintainer (and final canceler) of it. I got tired of doing that. If the related server date/time data could have been easily pulled from some online source or with some tool (ie: without the need to go into the game itself for this) the story might have ended differently.

Latest revision as of 16:53, 21 December 2022

  • Use this page to discuss stuff related to the main RoB homepage.
  • For general wiki discussion, please visit the Community Portal Talk page.
  • Alternatively there is also a general RoB Wiki thread at HnH forum.
  • (Resolved stuff gets cleared (at some point))

Subjects

Subject 1

I feel like a slight freshen up of the homepage might be good, mostly stuff aimed at new players as this is the best source of information there is. Maybe stuff like "Escaping Starting Area" could be "Starting a New Character", maybe locate it towards the top of the page. Pages about combat could be upfront on top and maybe unified in a way to teach new players to stay away from things. Soukuw (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

"Escaping Starting Area" seem not 'that' wrong as link title to me, as truly new users might potentially get lost in it due to not knowing what to do (but only ones I expect). I think the general location of things/links don't matter 'that' much here. As long as things are grouped and labeled properly. .MvGulik. 09:40, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Subject 2

Hello everyone, I have just registered and am trying to understand how it works so maybe I can help out in the future. I wanted to suggest, if possible, to put the server time, season and day, on the front page, it might be useful for many.

Bye, thanks, see you soon.

"server time, season and day, on the front page"

I'm pretty sure that we used to have indicator for that, but then Winter was changed to five days, down from five. This broke the system Wiki used.

While this is presumably something that would have been fixable, I can understand that motivation for that could be limited. They could not know if devs decide to make further adjustments to season lengths, requiring indicator to be fixed again.

Not long ago I might have said that the current seasons system with five days of winter is here to stay, but considering the "anti-winter radiance" of various base objects, devs could think that main problem with winter has been solved and it's okay to make winter ten days again.

Other than that

It also needed to be recalculated and updated after 'every' server timeout. And as creator & sole maintainer (and final canceler) of it. I got tired of doing that. If the related server date/time data could have been easily pulled from some online source or with some tool (ie: without the need to go into the game itself for this) the story might have ended differently.

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