Talk:Tri Quality System

Obsolete with World 10 https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=52822&sid=f07116ff4b71ac9f38d635111bb46127#p700991

1. Quality

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     Rawrz ┊ the 3 qualities make things confusing as hell, i still dont know what essence does on sword
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    loftar ┊ Essence on weapons generally increase your effective agility.

--Marisa (talk) 22:41, 9 November 2015 (EST)

Regarding Weapon Damage

The damage formula for swords (I'm about 90% sure of this) is the old damage formula, except replacing the quality with the new average quality formula.

It would look something like this:

${\sqrt {\frac {\sqrt {Strength*{\sqrt {\frac {Essence^{2}+Substance^{2}+Vitality^{2}}{3}}}}}{10}}}$

However there may be some truncation somewhere, or the formula is slightly different than this.

This would approximate the Hirdsman's Sword having a base damage of 130.

--ApocalypsePlease (talk) 15:09, 16 October 2015 (EDT)

are you sure it's not just using substance instead of average quality?

bow damage seems to rely only on sub (not 100% on that), and there is a lot of talk on the forums about sub being most important for weapons. --Turtlesir (talk) 18:42, 16 October 2015 (EDT)

That could be the case, it is giving more consistent numbers. The modifier should then be ${\sqrt[{4}]{\frac {Strength*Substance}{100}}}$. I will look into this more and try to get more data points to confirm --ApocalypsePlease (talk) 19:11, 16 October 2015 (EDT)

Page location

Shouldn't this be on the "Quality" page instead of a redirect? After all, the tooltip in the game says "Quality," and it's what most people are going to look for when coming here. --MagicManICT (talk) 17:06, 10 November 2015 (EST)

I tend to agree that this should be the "Quality" page, however the old quality page should be moved to the legacy namespace first. I will do this action when I am confident in the bow formulas. --ApocalypsePlease (talk) 16:51, 14 November 2015 (EST)